fare is fare if i line up next to another car that 24.5/a2a/67mm hey lets do it doesnt matter to me im not one who cares if i win or lose i just like to drive my **** fast and have fun lol

oh yeah and get nasty *** farmers tans

 

and sit next to the pfc hatch crew and provide some eye candy for the ladies cause they some ugly ****'s haha

 

fat chick riding shotgun for the outlaw fwd guys is not a bad idea. We can have them sitting in the stands available for rent.

 

Haha have you looked in a mirror lately???

No but seriously, I would rather have it stay the same. I like lining up next to 72mm cars quite honostly and try and beat them on the tree or by going faster. Hell, the first 2 IFO's we went to we had a blast and we had a 57mm turbo on the car running low 10's lol but racing the 72mm guys with a fat chick in the car would be pretty fun too

 

yeah cliff but all the events would have to be held in texas then way down south where all the fat ones are haha

you ever been to padre island my old lady was like wow

 

I love IFO events for this exact reason. You try to keep things the same but realize that a completely rigid structure is not healthy for the sport and that you need to be flexible per event.

As much as I do love the MIR True Street/Wild Street rules I think for IFO events the rules as they exist work very well. I also know that @ each event the field is evaluated and cars are moved accordingly to make the field as even as possible.

It's my opinion to keep things as they are in regards to the rules structure and the flexibility that has been applied and keep running some great events.

I fully understand why it's not the case but the only change I want are more IFO events in the Northeast that I could come out and support. As it is I plan on being at the MD event as well as the two NH events.

Thanks for doing what you doing and supporting the sport.

 

If the word PRO is in the title, you need to allow wheelie bars, lexan, back halves, etc.

 

open up FIP to fwd outlaw cars... its fine with me.. I don't mind getting beat by a fwd car.. I never could really understand why the slower FIS class got a higher payout than the faster FIP class... Bring it on. More competition the better in my opinion..
-Sam

 

no to Garage808 last post... lexan allowed though, no rule against back half either.

Sam, FIP pays out 4X more than FIS.

 

Sam, I think you mean why does FWD payout more than FIP? Because there are at least twice as many FWD racers as A/RWD racers.

 

I would personally like to introduce our newest crew members

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWfDDJPFXoo

 

Damn now I gotta change the loctations of where my in car cams are facing

Cliff, I like the rules how they are. Splitting them up like you have been doing is great. Nothing wrong with 67mm cars running 72mm cars it gives for good competition and something I look forward to. Plus there's a certain someone I'm hoping to line up against at one point this year with a 72.

 

i think pellis90 has the one to beat there haha

 

I like the Idea of 67mm and the 72mm class. Just what you posted cliff.

 

would be close if not the same as the nscra rules to if cliff/jason/john/javier all put there heads together and get the rules very close to each other its a win win for everybody

 

it doesn't work like that... the turn outs at Etown/Atco/Palm Beach are completely different from the turn outs at other parts of the country like Alabama, Louisiana, Kansas, etc. IFO is a truly national tour, the rules must conform for the majority.

Rules will most likely stay the way they are, but add classes/payouts at the events with big and diverse turnouts.

Suggestions still welcome though...

 

So are we talking outlaw fwd cars(72mm and 26" tires) racing against RWD and AWD cars that can run whatever tire and turbo they want? Really? That sounds like NOPI all over again. LOL Let us know something asap. I need to know if I need to get that 80mm turbo ready. LOL

 

my vote is to keep the rules as they are....

 

Im fine with it cliff, ill just get the Borg warner 67mm and roll out with very minor fab changes. As long as its not this year we coo lol.

I wouldn't drop the payout in FWD that much....atleast revert back to 2010 payouts if you were going to change that....a complete negative downgrade in payout would be no bueno.

As far as anything else....banning aftermarket h shifting trannies and drivelines like SOMEONE mentioned previously is just going to stop people from consistently seeing fast cars make it to the final round because they broke a silly stock gear. It doesn't make you faster...it doesn't give you more power....it doesnt shift using air or hydraulics, it doesn't shift by itself.

 

Haha have you looked in a mirror lately???

im a sexy **** fool

 

I went .4 faster on my first pass with the Liberty. Just sayin.

 

lol, so did I, but not the first day....wasn't the tranny's fault.

 

its not a matter of it being "broken". Its about making improvements. most of you have now idea what cliff is trying to do or how he sees things, so you are not in a possition to say its great the way it is.

I like the new rules even though I would have to make changes to. you guys dont be a "snaggle Puss"

You would run for the hills if you have a 9.5 civic and have to race a 9.5 supra, But bet your title if it was a 9.5 civic in the other lane instead. holly crap.

Yes some classes should slowed down. From what I have seen, the Outlaw front craze is dying down any way as folks finally realized how costly it really is to maintain even with dog boxes.

Here is my 2 cent on going faster. convert from outlaw running 8.4x back to hotrod, loose 400-600 lbs in the process, dont change the power setup and you are now in the 7 second zone and less breakages due to less weight and get your fast fix.

it cost about the same to build, if you are not trying to prove how much money you have by making it a show car also. Plus you get back a few of the old hotrod cars out there collecting dust in the process.

whats heavier? feathers or a steel bar? they weigh 10 lbs ea

 

I think they should pretty much stay the way they are, a few changes here and there are not to bad but like some of you guys said, some of the 67mm guys can go just as fast as the 72mm guys. Plenty of us have built our cars around the relaxed rules and I do not have all the money in the world to keep changing things because the rules do. Ill race what ever class im suppose to be in but we are building a 1500+ hp 2jz for the fip class for next year and our OUTLAW fwd cars cant compete with that, I understand anything can happen and I love racing rwd cars but it could get a little out of control. The only reason I run 26'' slicks is because our track sucks so bad I can use all the traction I can get.

I think if you change/add rules etc.... maybe a weight rule or actually enforce the interior rule. With the FIS and FWD class I think it works atleast in our region but I see why you may have to change things up at certian locations.

 

very unlikely racers will go back to hot rod, ric.