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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 01:12 AM
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Ok so i just bought my latest project its a 94 honda del sol. The body is pretty straight. The prevouse owner put doors on the car that didnt match the car so i guess he decided to primer the whole car black (door jambs too). im going to resurrect my sol from the ground up. I want to try and avoind taking the car down to bare metal. Is there a way to do it without taking the car all the way back to metal? Also what do i do about the bumpers and other random plastic pieces? if its any help im doing a full color change if that detail helps.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 05:00 AM
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Sand it down with some 180 and spray new primer on it based on what you have said. Unless I am missing something.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 05:12 AM
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Would tal-strip work for this application?
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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how far do i go? through the primer and into the basecoat? what a bout the hard to reach places?
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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Auto parts stores sell an attachment for your drill for paint/rust removal. It's kind of a rigid spongy looking wheel. It's about 10 dollars...I'd use that to remove the bulk of the paint and then go from there. Technically you don't have to even go all the way through the old clearcoat. The ideal is the creat the best surface for the new paint to stick to. If you go down to bare metal use etching primer on those spots. The hard to reach places...like what?
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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like inside the corners of the door jambs door handles.also concerned about the plastic pieces like the trim that runs around the rear of the car where the center brake light is.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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Hand sanding...it's gonna take some work. That's why paint and body shops charge so much...it's not an easy job.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Based off what you have said, it does not sound like you have much experience with any of this. What you are wanting to do is a lot of work. If you want it right, remove all your lights, trim, anything that you do not want paint/primer on. Taking it down to the metal is a lot of work, but it does give the best surface. You do not have to do that though.

Is this car a daily driver?
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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no its not a daily driver my friend saw the car on craigslist with a b16a under the hood for 800 or best offer he got it for $680. He wanted the engine and transmission for his civic. i bought the body and title for $300 from him. i have some experience in doing it but its been like 10yrs and my father in law was walking me through it. unfortunatly for me my father in law passed away before we could do a really big job like this. So i wanted to do it right the first time. the only part i really want to take down to bare metal is the engine bay. i think im going to sand blast it then shave it. i fully understand this is going to be a ton of work but i have time and space.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoFaced
Hand sanding...it's gonna take some work. That's why paint and body shops charge so much...it's not an easy job.

Sanding too much on your hands will cause it to fall off. Doing alots of work meant, that you trying to do the job right so that why body shop over charge. I didn't think all body shops do terrific job. Depend on whom you dealin' with.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Research on Autobody101.com, it honestly sounds like you are very new to this. I have done complete repaints at home before and there is just too much work to explain it all in one response.

EVERYTHING that will see new paint has to be sanded/de-glossed if you want the new paint will stick. You don't technically have to sand all the little corners, but then those are the places where the paint will start to lift first.

Rattle can primer is very thin and it should be easy to get it off, so I would say just go ahead and sand it all off. You will need to get to the glossy paint below it anyway.

You have no reason to take it down to the metal, that would be counterproductive.

Bumper and plastic pieces? Obviously you will have to remove them to prep and paint....
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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I've seen people blast primer on cars before but they never really went over the door jambs...normally if they avoid that...sanding the primer off the outside is easy and then you just 3m scuff the door jambs and blast paint.

As mentioned above...take everything off...this is obviously not a daily driver kind of situation so you don't have to skip out *shouldn't skip out on anything anyways but sometimes getting it back on the road leaves you to rush things...still a bad idea* It will make for a much cleaner and easier job. Save an extra couple bucks and buy all those random plastic rivets and knick-knacks on majestic honda so when you do put your bumpers and everything back on you're not half-assing it with sheetwall anchors and **** like that.

Oh...and post pics.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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im doing this job once and im doing it right. Im out of work so i have nothing but time lol.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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Good luck with the paint job I've been thinking of painting my hood and scared to even touch it lol.
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