Here's the deal.

Progress Technology currently have what I consider the best bang for your buck coilover setup (<$600 shipped) on the market. You can choice between 3 different spring rates (350/250, 350/350, or 350/500), and they match their dampers to their spring rates. Unfortunately, they are only offered for 89up Civics and non ITR Integras. I want to run this setup on my CRX, but I don't want to swap my LCAs to the newer style (I'm kinda 88 purest lol). So, I asked them if they were willing to start producing coilovers for our cars (both 88 EFs and ITRs). It appears that they are willing, if I (or someone else) could provide them with a rear strut.

With that being said, does anyone have a blown ITR rear strut laying around that they are willing to send me or Progress Technology? If so, post up or pm me

This is a great opportunity to get a cost efficient coilover setup for our cars (both 88 CRXs and ITRs). For more information on the coilovers check out the following links

http://www.progressauto.com/products...2/34/sfID3/143
https://honda-tech.com/forums/wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-48/progress-coil-over-special-promotion-2692801/
(post 841-842 is where I asked for the setup and they responded)

(By the way, I'm do not work for Progress. I'm just trying to increase the suspension choices for the JDM style LCAs)

 

couldnt put 600 dollar coilovers on an ITR chassis... just sounds bad

 

Well I'm pretty sure they could expand the eyelet style to their other (more expensive) coilovers for the people who purchase parts because of price...

 

I definitely dont purchase parts for their price. I have GC/Koniyellows, so obvisously I go for the best bang for the buck! Just sayin, you'll have a hard time finding someone in the ITR threads thats going to throw some cheap coilovers on their caR. If I still had my CRX I might consider these. Its not about the price... but you ALWAYS get what you pay for.

 

So just because this suspension is $600, it's not ITR worthy, but cool for a CRX? No disrespect, but to me ITRs are no different than a normal Integra. I have great respect for what Honda did with it and the b18c, but at the end of the day it's just a Honda like the rest of our cars.

Progress Technology is a respectable company. You can find their products on vehicles from Bisi to Hasport (http://www.progressauto.com/gallery/...yCategoryID1=3). Also, I haven't heard anything negative yet about their products, and they are very knowledgeable which is also a plus. Like I said before, I pretty sure they could adopt the eyelet style struts to their top of the line product after the research is done for the hardcore racer.

I'm just trying to contribute to the scene, since I feel the the eyelet LCAs gets overlooked by most companies. It looks like I'm going to bite the bullet and purchase a new strut to send them. I will update this thread in the near future for those who care.

 

A company the size of Progress can't purchase a $150 shock from the Acura dealer and design off of that?

Progress makes decent stuff, but I don't get why one of us would need to send them a blown strut. $150 is a cheap R&D cost.

 

So you come into the ITR forum and then tell us that the ITR is no different than a normal Integra?

Seriously dude, you need to do a little searching before you run your mouth. Here's a little primer if you want to retract your statement. Pay close attention to the chassis differences.

http://www.itrsport.com/technical.html

 

Todd00, I know we've had this argument before, but God knows I like to beat a dead horse. I also agree that Progress is not your average sub-$600 coilover set. This isn't K-sport we're talking about here. They've had hundreds of positive reviews, and I can't find a SINGLE negative one. The guys in the suspension forum swear by them. (Yes, these and your beloved Koni/GC setup) They match the strut with the spring-rate and they have incredible customer service.

As far as not having a ITR strut to test, well I used to work for Autozone and guess what. The "ITR" shock you're going to get from there? Same as the "gsr" strut. Aftermarket crap is just that. I'm sure Progress wants a legit OEM ITR strut, which if bought from Honda, probably isn't cheap. There probably is also next to zero demand for cheap ITR coilovers, mostly thanks to mindsets like yours.

 

What, exactly, are you reading? I agreed that Progress makes good stuff and I don't believe I've ever said anything bad about them. Here's my quote from this thread:

And I already told you the price of an OEM ITR rear shock from the Acura dealer:

Look it up if you don't believe me. And again, for a company the size of Progress, I think it's asking a bit much for a customer to provide an OEM shock for them to design off of. I'll repeat, $150 is nothing to a company for R&D costs.

Still though, the Koni/GC setup is more flexible than the Progress offering. But this certainly doesn't mean Progress makes bad stuff. Progress has been used as the suspension on many of the Honda/Acura student cars at Mid-Ohio.

 

I got the same question on another forum I posted LOL. I look at it like this. They don't have to make suspension for our style LCAs. They are going to sell if they if they make both styles or not since they are a respectable company. So it may not be worth it for them to target such a small market. Plus, I'm the one that asked them to start developing suspension for our style LCAs. That's why I'm going out of my way to work with them. (You scratch my back, I scratch your back.)

 

Please chill dude LOL. Dr. DC2 basically posted that ITRs are too good for $600 suspension from a respectable company. I just gave him a reality check stated that it's still just a Honda. I'm no noob to the Honda game. I KNOW there plenty of differences between the ITR and RS/GS/GSRs, but it still not light years ahead of the other Integras. That's just my opinion. (Hopefully that ends this discussion before it blows up since I'm not here to fight over my opinion)


Like I stated before, I'm just trying to open the door for our LCAs. Don't like their basic dampers, cool. I pretty sure they could adapt that style to all of their setups, giving our cars more suspension options in the future. I'm just an enthusiast trying to increase our parts market.


*edit*
Also, I talked to a few good friends of mines (who owns Imported cars, and 88 CRXs), and we may just split the cost of a new strut between us if I cannot get a blown one within the next few weeks. I prefer not wasting a new strut, but I'll do what's need to grown the suspension market.

 

*Just* a Honda, huh? An NSX is just a Honda and the Jordan/Mugen F1 car was just a Honda, too.

This is a crappy cop-out that people use for some reason. Nevermind that the suspension design on a 95 Civic 4-door LX is technically more sophiscated than that of an E90 BMW M3, but hey--it's just a Honda.

And FWIW, your opinion is far from fact. I'm not going to argue with you beyond this, but it's a flat slap in the face to say that the ITR is just an Integra (especially in this forum). If you've never extensively driven or owned both cars, then you really can't say.

More tidbits for you as well. The OEM ITR suspension is *very* dialed in. It's not like the OEM suspension on your 88 CRX. The ITR suspension was designed for track use, not some 20-something girl hauling her clothes to her dorm room. This is why cheap coilovers actually hurt the ITR's handling. And this is why Dr. DC2 made his statement. The reality check goes both ways.

 

 

Eh, it doesn't matter, it was an old thread.

I just like to poke the bear sometimes.

 

When I read this post I couldn't even get upset, so all I could do was laughed. I can tell you are a true ITR (Honda) enthusiast, so I'm not mad at you. Keep the passion! I apologize if my opinion was viewed as slap to the face, so I retract my statement. Unfortunately, I can't change my opinion. I have great respect for what Honda did with the ITR, but I just can't compare it to a F1 car or an NSX.

Thanks for the useful information also. I'll take that in consideration if I ever decide to purchase an ITR in the future. It's good to know that cheap coilovers can actually hurt the way ITRs handle, but I'm pretty sure that can be said about any other make or model. Even expensive coilovers could hurt the handling characteristics of any car if it's not dial in correctly, but that's off the subject.



It's no need for popcorn, because I'm not here to start drama. Something rubbed me the wrong way, so pushed back, nothing more, nothing less. I'm not trying to battle you (Todd00) or any other ITR owner. With that being said, I hope this thread could get back on topic. If not, a mod might as well close it.

 

And I'm not comparing the ITR to an NSX or F1 car, but saying something is "just a Honda" really shouldn't be viewed as an insult as Honda has made countless quality motor vehicles. What other 1988 automotive product do you know of that was built as good as the CRX (minus the rusting issues as that was bad metal)?

Just keep in mind that the ITR is more than the sum of its parts. If you've never experienced a bone-stock one on an autox course or track, then you really should. I doubt you'd feel like you do if you would have. The CRX is a good chassis, but it is so flexible (read: not ridgid) compared to the ITR it isn't funny.

I guess the point is that you came in here looking for help with shocks, and that's totally fine. But the other comments were uncalled for, IMO. At least maybe now you can see just how many parts were changed vs. the GSR that perhaps you'll view the ITR in a slightly different light now. So much was changed in the chassis that Honda had to recertify crash test standards for the ITR when they imported it to North America.

 

hmmm... yea totally burned me. I wouldn't say the ITR is "lightyears" away from other Integra models, but frankly i dont think youre entitled to give your opinion on a vehicle youve never owned. I didnt say they were bad coilovers, i didnt say it was a company that produced junk, i was simply stating that most ITR owner's wouldnt consider a coilover setup that hasnt been proven; as in you're going to have a hard time finding anyone in these threads that can get you input, weather positive or negative, ITR owner's are going to go with something they KNOW is a great product and are going to buy some nice suspension. Afterall, if its not a half way decent coilover setup then theyre probably better off sticking with the STOCK ITR suspension. But you seem to be all high and mighty on your thrown so Ill let you burn me some more.

 

I stopped reading right there to be honest. Don't think I would ever consider this brand now.

 

Honestly, it wasn't meant as a insult. I do own a multiple Hondas myself (88 CRX Si, 89 Civic Si, and 09 Fit Sport), so I wouldn't down talk a brand I support. I just felt that Dr. DC2 was putting the ITR chassis on a pedestal that "I" didn't agree with. That's why I made the statement I did.

I would imagine that the ITR is more rigid than my CRX chassis LOL. During the decade between the two chassis, I sure Honda R&D did it work, but you can't deny that Honda did a great job in the 80s with the CRX.


Todd00, You're alright in my book :thumbs up:

 

LOL, I was waiting for this reply.

My bad for the choice of words. Like I said in my previous reply, I felt like you were putting the ITR on a pedestal I disagreed with.

I agree on not wanting something that's isn't proven, but Progress Technology isn't a new startup company. That's why I came in ITR section to see if anyone wanted contribute. I thought you guys would love it they started making suspension with eyelet mounting points. If this was brand x, trust me, I would not be wasting my time LOL.

Last, I'm FARRRRR from high and mighty. We just got off on the wrong foot. As you should be able to tell by now I'm not here to make enemies. I just here trying to do my part to contribute to scene (even if it's just mailing in a strut).


P.S. Nice quote LOL

 

ill give you 2 rear itr struts if you promise never to post in the ITR Section ever again.

 

**** that, the itr can never lose!

Dare, I have an extra oem itr rear shock you can have for r&d.

 

It you don't own a ITR then GTFO!!!

 

is it time for the cats now?