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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Whats up Accord guys! i need your help, i got a 94'' accord for my baby mamma and it needs some work!, im no noob and i own a 98'' ITR and built the entire thing from scratch but this accord is killing me! it has no vss! the car doesnt blow hot air! and i need some oem accord rims. It didnt pass smog either. I need help locating why the blower doesnt blow hot air! where should i look. check engine light comes on but im pretty sure its cause it has no vss, how do i check that? also the intake arm is torn below cause the oem intake has two pieces and the lower port is torn from the upper arm, and if any one has oem accord rims with good tires in s.d lmk asap thanks.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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I'd get a VSS if there's none. As for not blowing hot air? I'd check the heater control valve located by the firewall if you follow the heater hose located underneath the distributor from the head back and it's a small black plastic control valve. Usually on these Accord, those heater valve stuck close which allows no coolant to flow to the heater core for heat.

Since your's a '94 Accord, there's a blue two pin connector under the passenger side dash, unplug it and jump the two pin connector with a paper clip or some sort with the key to the "ON" position. It'll give you so many long and short flashes. Example, it gave you two long flashes and two short flashes, thats code 22. Hope this helps.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Can't help you with emissions unless you have test results. Emissions differ in every state, as do limits. Some states use parts per million as a measurement. My state (az) uses grams per mile.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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Whats up Accord guys! i need your help, i got a 94'' accord for my baby mamma and it needs some work!, im no noob and i own a 98'' ITR and built the entire thing from scratch but this accord is killing me! it has no vss! the car doesnt blow hot air! and i need some oem accord rims. It didnt pass smog either. I need help locating why the blower doesnt blow hot air! where should i look. check engine light comes on but im pretty sure its cause it has no vss, how do i check that? also the intake arm is torn below cause the oem intake has two pieces and the lower port is torn from the upper arm, and if any one has oem accord rims with good tires in s.d lmk asap thanks.
So the ODO isn;t working? or you're saying the actual VSS sensor on the tranny IIRC is not there?, sorry your statement isn't clear.

As for the heater not blowing in hot air, you could have a blockage. This video will explain your situation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcL_0...layer_embedded
As for smog testing start by finding out what codes there are in your check engine light this will tell you if it's emissions related or VSS related.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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I'd get a VSS if there's none. As for not blowing hot air? I'd check the heater control valve located by the firewall if you follow the heater hose located underneath the distributor from the head back and it's a small black plastic control valve. Usually on these Accord, those heater valve stuck close which allows no coolant to flow to the heater core for heat.

Since your's a '94 Accord, there's a blue two pin connector under the passenger side dash, unplug it and jump the two pin connector with a paper clip or some sort with the key to the "ON" position. It'll give you so many long and short flashes. Example, it gave you two long flashes and two short flashes, thats code 22. Hope this helps.
Hey thanks nus_dogg! ill check that tomarrow dude!, yea i saw that and i figured maybe i can bypass it like the obd1 b series ecu's!

Originally Posted by chikin pickle
Can't help you with emissions unless you have test results. Emissions differ in every state, as do limits. Some states use parts per million as a measurement. My state (az) uses grams per mile.
Damn never knew that! thanks bro.

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So the ODO isn;t working? or you're saying the actual VSS sensor on the tranny IIRC is not there?, sorry your statement isn't clear.

No the odom isnt working, the actual vss aint there lol that explained it once i took a look when i removed the air box. I wonder why its missing! this car was real janky! no radio, big 17'' pos tsc rims with the low profile tires, this is why i need the oem rims, all the pot holes around s.d after the rains left one of the rims bent! now heres a ugly unsafe donut on! she drives the baby so i get nervouse with the rims on there.

As for the heater not blowing in hot air, you could have a blockage. This video will explain your situation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcL_0...layer_embedded
As for smog testing start by finding out what codes there are in your check engine light this will tell you if it's emissions related or VSS related.
I believe it was checked previously and was diognosed with a bad knock sensor! which i dont see why, and vss malfunction, but there isnt even a vss there. so im guessing the check engine light that randomly comes on is still the vss cell. it has to be.. thanks for the help guys!
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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if you need help checking /repairing the stuff i can give you a hand. i had a few accords before and im local sd also
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Thanks dude! have you ever had a bad heater core or had this happen to any of your accords?
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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I would try flushing the heater core instead of ripping apart the dash.

I suspect my accord has partial blockage of the heater core because my prior accord the heat was toasty this accord the heat is lukewarm. When winter passes I'm going to this procedure.

BTW, if you do flush the system a garden hose is acceptable because you're simply applying pressure to force out any gunk.

As for the VSS since it isn't there install one.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Im not sure what hose to flush, should i drain the radiator and just flush the upper radiator hose? or the lower hose and drain the upper hose in a bucket..
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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did you not watch the video?
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 01:05 AM
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yea i get the concept but the car wasnt a accord.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Same procedure, drain your coolant locate heater core hoses by using your lower radiator hose, you'll notice 2 smaller hoses they will go into the firewall in the vicinity of the throttle body (beneath it).

Disconnect both hoses, one will be inlet and outlet hoses and start the flushing procedure.
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
Thanks dude! have you ever had a bad heater core or had this happen to any of your accords?
nada i had 4 of them from 0miles to 300k miles and none of them had bad heater cores, it could be the valve is stuck or the cable broke
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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HOLD ON!

Before you go flushing and all that with the heater check the simple things first, broken temp ****. It can stay on the panel and turn fine but can have cracks in it that would change it over to hot. broken ***** are way more common that clogged heater cores.

also the cable can be out of adjustment too like one of the first poster implied with checking the hot water valve if the valve is open and no heat then you got a problem.

changing coolant will not help heater proformance and I wouldn't recomend "flushing" unless it was absolutely needed.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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HOLD ON!

Before you go flushing and all that with the heater check the simple things first, broken temp ****. It can stay on the panel and turn fine but can have cracks in it that would change it over to hot. broken ***** are way more common that clogged heater cores.

also the cable can be out of adjustment too like one of the first poster implied with checking the hot water valve if the valve is open and no heat then you got a problem.

changing coolant will not help heater proformance and I wouldn't recomend "flushing" unless it was absolutely needed.
Thanks man, where is that temp **** and hot water water valve located or is that what nuss_dogg was explaining?
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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also the egnition key hole is jamed or something cause its hard to get the key out sometimes, you have to push in and turn to release but it wont sometimes and it gets fustrating, do i need a new ignition and will that be a pricey fix and hard to install?
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Thanks man, where is that temp **** and hot water water valve located or is that what nuss_dogg was explaining?
The temp **** is on the dash it's what you turn to make it cold or hot.

the water valve is near the firewall below the intake manifold. follow the heater hoses.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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The temp **** is on the dash it's what you turn to make it cold or hot.

the water valve is near the firewall below the intake manifold. follow the heater hoses.
ow duh lol how do i confirm the **** is broken? it seems to turn fine..
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ow duh lol how do i confirm the **** is broken? it seems to turn fine..
Are you sure you built a car from scratch? from what I am reading in your posts you are asking questions to pretty basic procedures.

Anyway, remove heater **** and see if it's broken. I doubt that it is since you said it turns fine but check anyway.


This is your heater valve
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Are you sure you built a car from scratch? from what I am reading in your posts you are asking questions to pretty basic procedures.

lol you bet your a$$! i had this gsr pretty much stripped and bare at one time! I dont just go and tear things up, i like to know the proper way to disassemble the part or project thats all.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...2556604&page=5


Anyway, remove heater **** and see if it's broken. I doubt that it is since you said it turns fine but check anyway.


This is your heater valve

thanks for the pic!
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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Have you thought about getting the Helms manual for it?
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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No but im sure it would come in handy! ill update when i get a chance to work on the car.
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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The 1994 Accord produced before August had a problem with the heater cable noob coming undone due to a poorly designed clip. Depending on the actual noob production month this could be your problem. You should observe the heater valve movement noob to confirm it moves when you adjust the noob temperature control ****.

The VSS can be checked by confirming an output signal noob from the VSS feedback wire with the front wheels rotating, key on. This can be tricky if you don't have the proper diagnostic tools noob or an electrical schematic detailing the proper wire. Or, you can put one where that hole is in the transmission.
The failure of the smog check could be caused by too many things to guess. As stated, a printout of the noob actual readings will be necessary to start directing your efforts.

And, best wishes to your baby momma.
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[QUOTE=kidcool1977;44407857]Are you sure you built a car from scratch? from what I am reading in your posts you are asking questions to pretty basic procedures.

Anyway, remove heater **** and see if it's broken. I doubt that it is since you said it turns fine but check anyway.

Actually that is not true. I can vouche for a damaged heater control **** mechanism being broken. I would turn it and it felt fine like it was suppose to turn but wouldnt change the temp. When we took it apart the mechanism inside was broken.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Are you sure you built a car from scratch? from what I am reading in your posts you are asking questions to pretty basic procedures.

Anyway, remove heater **** and see if it's broken. I doubt that it is since you said it turns fine but check anyway.

Actually that is not true. I can vouche for a damaged heater control **** mechanism being broken. I would turn it and it felt fine like it was suppose to turn but wouldnt change the temp. When we took it apart the mechanism inside was broken.
Ill check the heater core **** asap, heres my build thread on my sleaper please leave your comments if you care to see the car i built,

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