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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 05:07 AM
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Good Morning Honda Tech,

I had a question about lowering a 96 accord sedan? When you lower them and you buy a camber kit do they have the camber plates that mount to the top of the strut or do they just use the adjustable balljoints or do they sell those nice upper control arms that Skunk sells.

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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Skunk2 adjustable upper control arms for an EF chassis Civic will fit on your Accord.

If you dont wanna spend $200 on the Skunk2, Ingalls Adjustable Anchor Bolts work well too!

Stay away from no-name brands. The bushings and ball-joints wear way too fast.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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Balwin nailed it! There's SPC camber ball joint kit for the front or you can go with Ingalls Anchor bolt. Just stay away from Ebay no name kit.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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so when purchasing lowering springs do u HAVE to purchase a camber kit?
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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No but you should. There is a general misconception about camber. Sure it does wear down tires faster but the real killer of tires is toe. This is why you need an alignment ASAP.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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I am also wondering about lowering mine, but still dont understand, so if i pick strut/springs I need to get this part?
http://www.amazon.com/Ingalls-35640-.../dp/B000CHQ8VQ
please shed a light on me on this appreciate your help guys!
thanks.
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Old Jan 2, 2011 | 02:04 AM
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Yes you should however an alignment is even more crucial.. an alignment should run anywhere from 70-90 dollars.

You must understand that when lowering ride height, every other aspect of the suspension system is effected as well.

Camber and Toe are the most drastic variables that correspond with respect to ride height, therefore the settings need to be changed when the height is changed. If you do not get an alignment and camber kit, your tires and alignment will be effected, which will change how your car drives (in a bad way).
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 06:30 AM
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long as you immediately get an alignment, then the camber kit isnt needed, right?
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dlewis2583
long as you immediately get an alignment, then the camber kit isnt needed, right?
For the 20th time in this thread, no. A camber kit is not required when you lower your car.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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just checking. i mean Balwin was making see like if u want to have a nice,smooth ride..that a cmber kit was a MUST HAVE!

Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
For the 20th time in this thread, no. A camber kit is not required when you lower your car.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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A camber kit will not make your ride seem any smoother but trust me your tires will wear more. Its something you should get, but it is not necessary. Get an alignment most definitely though!
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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well tires aint cheap,but i feel ya...i may look into it...im most def going with eibach(pro-kit) springs

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A camber kit will not make your ride seem any smoother but trust me your tires will wear more. Its something you should get, but it is not necessary. Get an alignment most definitely though!
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dlewis2583
just checking. i mean Balwin was making see like if u want to have a nice,smooth ride..that a cmber kit was a MUST HAVE!
There are reasons for them, one of them being tire contact on the road. If you run extreme camber you end up getting only the inner edge of the tire with contact which makes you more prone to have issues like hydro-planing. A camber kit can and will flatten the wheel out which allows more contact of the actual tread with the pavement.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Balwin
Its something you should get, but it is not necessary.
Good thing that I listened to advice like this and got a camber kit....so I can dial in more negative camber.

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A camber kit can and will flatten the wheel out which allows more contact of the actual tread with the pavement.
Not while cornering.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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I have lifted 1 truck, lowered 1 truck, lowered 2 cars, never have gotten an alignment or camber kit. Sure my settings can't be dialed in perfect but for a dd I did not have any problems with my suspension components or tire wear. I agree its a good thing to do, but I definitely believe it is NOT required. Just my personal experience.
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 02 accord
Good thing that I listened to advice like this and got a camber kit....so I can dial in more negative camber.
Lol is that really necessary unless you have low offset wheels?

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I have lifted 1 truck, lowered 1 truck, lowered 2 cars, never have gotten an alignment or camber kit. Sure my settings can't be dialed in perfect but for a dd I did not have any problems with my suspension components or tire wear. I agree its a good thing to do, but I definitely believe it is NOT required. Just my personal experience.
ha. no alignment eh? have fun with that.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Toyota00
I have lifted 1 truck, lowered 1 truck, lowered 2 cars, never have gotten an alignment or camber kit. Sure my settings can't be dialed in perfect but for a dd I did not have any problems with my suspension components or tire wear. I agree its a good thing to do, but I definitely believe it is NOT required. Just my personal experience.
You are wasting your tires away needlessly
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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Lol is that really necessary unless you have low offset wheels?
Yes.

MuffinMan, he's not necessarily wasting the tires on his truck. Usually those are lowered with drop spindles which retain the factory geometry.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Yes.

MuffinMan, he's not necessarily wasting the tires on his truck. Usually those are lowered with drop spindles which retain the factory geometry.
Ah, I'm not personally too familiar with lowering trucks so that very well could be true. It is even possible he lucked out on the cars and the toe isn't too far off from stock. I rolled around on my first Accord when it was lowered for about a year on tires without getting it aligned (lack of knowledge) and the tires lasted.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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With crappy all seasons, they might last due to the hard compound. Try doing that on sticky tires...
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