i rebuilt my gsr motor with usdm type r pistons and had to have my head slightly milled compression should be 11.2:1. I also put brian crower springs and TI retainers in the head. Now im trying to decide which cams would benefit this motor best. Its a street car that will also see the drag strip often. I dont wanna rev it too high 9000 rpms MAX. I was looking at the crower 402-2 and brian crower stage 2 so i could match valve train. What do u guys think. Id like to make at least 190whp. Also using type r header for now and either aebs or skunk 2 intake mani. Local guy is trying to sell me crane stage 3 but i havent heard much about them and dont want to over cam it. Thanks for your input.

 

Skunk2 tuner 2's OR Buddy club spec 3's.

If you dont mind having a slightly more aggressive cam for street driving, aka a slightly choppy idle in some cases, Skunk2 pro 1's or rocket m22's are very nice as well.

Crowers tend to run small IMO

 

pro1's would be ideal for your setup.

tuner2's dont really have any low end per say.. stockish primaries with a big vtec lobe.. good cams, i just dont think he'd utlitize them on his setup..

Reving doesn't hurt the motor if your making power that high.. free reving and doing it to be cool is what does.. I had the crower valvetrain once, was a good valvetrain. Lasted through 4 years, and 6 sets of different cams.. after that you'll probably wanna check your retainers..

Pro1's or m22x's.

 

Only reason I mentioned S2 Tuner 2's was he said he wanted it to be "street" and that varies from person to person.

Pro 1's would be my choice.

As far as IM goes id say a Performer X or Skunk 2. Skip that AEBS

 

performanerX hands down.

 

thanks for your suggestions guys, i dont mind having a rough idle, as long as itll stay running at idle im good. So pro 1's would be a good overall cam for this setup for street/strip? Guess i'll look into them. How about the brian crower stage 3?

 

Just dont wanna rev to high with stock gsr rods...

 

9K on stock rods and rod bolts is fine. I wouldnt go past that though.
Like I said the Crowers are...um...ehhh.
Pro 1's will be better.

 

Why.. there's no reason not too.. rods are not weak.. "rod bolts" usually are..on the b series motors, the itr/gsr rod bolts are pretty strong to a point.

There's alot of misinformation about what blocks / motors can handle..

your fine.. if your going to rev that high and your motor is still apart, i'd suggest upgrading to some arp rod bolts for safety. If not, its fine, 9k on stock rods is fine. Spun my itr (daily driver) to about 9500 for 4 years. I have a number of customers that have b16's who spin to 9k on stock bottem ends.

I've yet to see a good dyno of a stage 3 cam from brian crower or crower.

 

thanks for the good info, i already built the motor and put 500 miles on it so now im looking at cams. stock rods/bolts. Looks like im gonna try and source out some pro 1's. thanks again.

 

In this case, i might as well skip the tuner 2's and get pro 1's this spring.

 

duh

 

i'm on crower stage 3's on my 1.8 with a performer x. i MAY have dyno sheets this Sunday if I decide to strap er' down. I have stock cam gears though :/

81.5 12:0~ c/r with e85. any guestimates?

 

And why are the crower's uhhhh to you? Have you used them? And with the crower 402-2 he will have more usable power if he is closer to stock-sh compression.

 

Aye bro u should try the crower 402-2. Don't be brainwashed by all of these sackriders who say crower isn't good enough. They are on the bandwagon and most of these dickriders are followers. The crowers will give you a more usable powerband instead of the s2s2 which is mean for high compression motors(11:9-up)..AEBS will be good for a gsr head and use a 65mm tb. A good header will also help(tri y) and a good flowing exhaust(2.5 inch). Good luck!

 

Lol your whole post is filled with misinformation

Aebs manifold....junk, tri-y header.....outperformed by a few others, 2.5 exhaust......I take it you still believe in back pressure, crower cams... well if u want metal shavings all in your engine id recommend them...

You got a lot of reading to do...

 

Actually I decided to run the BC Spec 3+ cams. I got them for a good deal from my buddy probably a total of 1000 miles on them.

I will be tearing my head off in 3 weeks to install new Crower VT with OEM standard size Manley Valves.

This will be my setup:

b18c1 block bored to 81.5mm with Usdm Itr pistons.
Gsr head/ Stock ports
Crower dual valve springs/retainers
OEM Standard size Manley Valves
Buddy Club Spec 3+ Cams
Performer X with ITR TB.
RMF Rep Header
00 b16 tranny
Neptune RTP
Thinking about buying a Competition Stage 2 clutch, besides that everything is just sitting in my closet.

Nothing crazy! I'd be happy if I could trap 14.0 on the 1/4 ahaah

 

You think the crowers will outperform the Pro 1's? Show me a dyno and proof and then i will CONSIDER believeing it. The Pro 1's have proven themselves to be one of the best all around street cams on the market. Larger primaries for lows/mids and they still have good vtec pull to what most guys will be using for a DD and occasional track use.

All this coming from a guy who bumped a 7 year old thread to talk ****, seems thats all you know....****.

 

I just ordered Buddy Club Spec 3+ Cams with the appropriate valve springs and cam gears today.

 

What exhaust are you running?

 

2.5 Tanabe Racing Medallion. But thinking I will run open header.

 

dropped my pro 1s in.....gained 25hp mid range was unreal and the idle isnt savage!

 

Idle is never savage with pro cams unless your car isn't tuned properly.

 

25hp over what?
like what cam tuner 2's or stock?