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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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We have been around Honda-Tech for a few years now, answering tech and sharing interests. Any questions you guy have about fuel or injectors, please feel free to ask.

If you've ever wondered about what kind of fuel it takes to make a certain amount of power, we have a few handy calculators here: DW Fuel Calculators

Also, check out Dan's college-budget build to give you an idea of what you can do with a little thrifty spending. VVV

Just recently had a college-budget build on a '05 RSX and E85 put down 326whp with our 800cc injectors. Check out Dan’s ride here.





We will be exhibiting at SEMA next week and will be introducing our new fuel pump at the show.

...and after SEMA we will be putting the final touches on our new B/D/H-series line-up.

What we have currently:

Honda Civic D17 450cc
Honda Civic D17 525cc
Honda K20/K24 450cc
Honda K20/K24 600cc
Honda K20/K24 800cc
Honda S2000 F20/F22 450cc
Honda S2000 F20/F22 600cc
Honda S2000 F20/F22 800cc


What we have coming soon:

Honda K20/K24 1000cc/1300cc + 1-2 larger size TBD
Honda S2000 F20/F22 1000cc/1300cc + 1-2 larger size TBD
Honda B/D/H 450cc/600cc/800cc/1000cc/1300cc + 1-2 larger sizes TBD
300LPH In-Tank Fuel Pump


I'm very excited about getting involved in the H-T communty, as I've been a Honda guy for almost a decade now!

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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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For any of you not on the DW mailing list, here is the November eNewsletter:



If you'd like to be put on the newsletter mailing list, just shoot me a PM or an email - chris@deatschwerks.com
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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looks great chris!
do you know when the 1000cc k series injectors will be available?
im looking to turn up the power a bit, trying to get around 400 whp.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Hey, thanks Dan!

The 1000cc K20 injector should be available soon. More than likely around the first of the year.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Nice. About time people other than Subie monkeys got into these.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Hows the physical size of your new pump compared to a walbro 255. Any chance we could sqeeze two of these in with a Full Blown Kit or is it about the same size as a bosch in-tank.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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Our pump has a 39mm body similar to the 255. If you can get that pump in there, you can get ours in there.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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too small
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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Sure...for a build like yours. ...but there aren't too many builds out there that need a A1000 pump. ...and there are quite a few where a 255 just isn't quite enough.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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could you PM a price and a flow sheet if you have it. Need to know flow rating 40 - 100 PSI. I will be using 2 of these with a full blown kit and 2000cc injectors in a h22 civic, trying to make 850+ on E98. Thanks.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:33 AM
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SO.GA, I sent you a PM. Sounds like you've got quite a beast.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:43 AM
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can you send me the same info but for 1000cc. How long until the B series injectors come out? Looking to make 700+ in my 4dr and comparing these to the ID1000s
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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You might want to look at our 1300cc if you are looking to make 700+hp.

You'd have to run the base fuel pressure around 65-70psi to deliver enough fuel for that kind of power on the 1000cc. That is going to work your fuel pump pretty hard.

With the 1300cc injectors, you should be able to support the power you are looking to make and keep the base fuel pressure around stock levels. That should make your fuel pump more efficient. Keep in mind, we'll have our new 300LPH pump available around the first of the year, and with the 1300cc and 300LPH pump, you should be able to hit your goal without having to go to some wild fuel setup.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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PM me some info on the pump please is it ok to run q16 on this pump.
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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Great news for those running Hondata K-Pros.

DeatschWerks K and F-series injectors will have calibration data on one of the next updates!
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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I have twin walbros in the tank, pretty sure I have enough pump for 1000cc injectors to work for my setup lol. So, again...how much are the 1000's going to run price wise, hell shoot me a pm with price for the 1300's as well, i'm curious. Also i'd like to know how these compare to the ID's as far as atomization, spray pattern, tuning ability, getting 1000cc injectors to idle ect...
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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Default Re: DeatschWerks Fuel Injectors

Any plans to come out with some peak and holds injectors for us H series guys who use a resister box ?
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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If you're running a decent Honda based programmable ecu setup, then it was probably designed for saturated injectors anyway. Remove resistor box.
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 93hatched_projekt
Any plans to come out with some peak and holds injectors for us H series guys who use a resister box ?
Why not ditch the the resisitor box and use a High Impedance injector?
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 93hatched_projekt
Any plans to come out with some peak and holds injectors for us H series guys who use a resister box ?
No plans for a Lz injector for the OBD-0 and OBD-I guys. Like locash and Chuck stated above, the switch to Hz injectors is a pretty easy one. ...and Lz injector tech hasn't improved much since they were released 20+ years ago. The Hz injectors that are available now are a better fit for modern electronics and modern fuels.

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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Deatschwerks
No plans for a Lz injector for the OBD-0 and OBD-I guys. Like locash and Chuck stated above, the switch to Hz injectors is a pretty easy one. ...and Lz injector tech hasn't improved much since they were released 20+ years ago. The Hz injectors that are available now a better fit for modern electronics and modern fuels.
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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Are the 525cc injectors you guys have part#D17-525-4 for the D17 fit without modification? I am aware that any k20 injectors oem/aftermarket would work by extending the studs on the rail of a d17. Would i still need to extended studs to use these injectors. Any advice input from you guys is greatly appreciated.

cliff notes of my setup

d17a1 bottom
d17a2 head
Hondata kpro
arp head studs
arp rod bolts
crower s1 cam
garret t28 internal gated shooting for 12-18psi
hks ssq
dezod fmic
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 07:34 AM
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Hey Teggy,

Thanks for the question. The D17/R18 injectors that we have available are one of the few exceptions to our drop-in fitment applications. As you pointed out, the injector for the late model D17 and R18 are a shorter injector than most other Honda applications.

You will have to space the rail, and a longer stud or bolt will be needed. Connectors will be supplied that need to be wired in place of the OE connectors on the engine harness.

Let me know if you have any questions.
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