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94 non-VTEC SOHC into 99 dx: Is my parts list for this swap complete?

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Default 94 non-VTEC SOHC into 99 dx: Is my parts list for this swap complete?

ok so am puttin an eg single into my ek ....
my ek is obd2
the single i got is obd1
they told me change the injectors and altenator ....
and everything will link up except for some sensors like crank sensor etc
but will the engine harness connect to the harness of the car ( ecu ) ??

i have a 99 dx i am puttin a 94 single cam non v in it
i need
obd2 altenator
obd2 dizzy
obd2 injectors
obd2 ecu thats all correct ?? using an obd2 harness !!

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by b20hatchek
yeap
ok ... another question i have to change the motor mount of the ek block
to the eg block correct ?? because ek mount to the car is round the eg one is like a
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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You dont need to change the injectors. Are you using the OBD2 harness? The alternator should also be fine. I never heard of either of these things changing between OBD 1 and OBD 2. Considering that I have a OBD1 ECU setup in an OBD2 car and changed neither thing. And the crank sensor will plug right in (atleast it should), the one you will have an issue with (if your running an OBD2 ECU) is the knock sensor. As the OBD1 blocks dont even have a space for them.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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if i understand your question then...yeah?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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You dont need to change the injectors. Are you using the OBD2 harness? The alternator should also be fine. I never heard of either of these things changing between OBD 1 and OBD 2. Considering that I have a OBD1 ECU setup in an OBD2 car and changed neither thing. And the crank sensor will plug right in (atleast it should), the one you will have an issue with (if your running an OBD2 ECU) is the knock sensor. As the OBD1 blocks dont even have a space for them.
am going to run an obd2 harness on an obd1 motor ... arent the injectors and altenator plugs diffrent on an obd1 ??

will the car start without the knock sensor ??
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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obd2 harness will NOT plug into a obd1 alternator, you need to swap out the injectors and alternator. he wants a clean swap not halfa**ed
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swap the knock sensor just in case, ive had nothing but non-vtec motors (for now)
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Originally Posted by b20hatchek
if i understand your question then...yeah?
my question was i have to change the complete motor mount to the eg motor
the motor mount that grabs on the block and also the one that grabs
on the body

like theres no modification needed ek mounts will fit eg block ?
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oh uh no, ek mounts are diff from eg
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by b20hatchek
swap the knock sensor just in case, ive had nothing but non-vtec motors (for now)
the guy above just told me eg dosent have knock sensor ...
also another person i met told me eg's dont have knock sensors
ek motors do but eg's dont .... i just want to know the things i have to change
from the ek block to the eg block they just told me injectors and altenator
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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oh uh no, ek mounts are diff from eg
so how do i mount the eg motor on the ek ?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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theirs not eg motors and ek motors just obd1 and obd2, but anyways yeah then just swap what you've been told
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ek mount
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by b20hatchek
theirs not eg motors and ek motors just obd1 and obd2, but anyways yeah then just swap what you've been told
when i say ek and eg i mean obd1 as eg and obd2 as ek ....
ok i just wanted to be sure double checking .... so i need obd2 injectors and altenator
and thats it right and swap the mounts from the ek ( obd2 ) motor to the obd1 motor correct ?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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yup
cool thanx a lot bro !!!
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by b20hatchek
yup
one more question what about the distributer ?? dont they change ??
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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if you run the obd2 ecu you'll have a knock code and crankshaft fluctuation code. you can do a bypass for the ckf but their is no good way around the knock sensor issue. aside from having the ecu chipped, tuned, and knock disabled. but that's definitely overkill. this is why i just bought a jumper harness and ran an obd1 ecu in my ek.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by white_ej6
one more question what about the distributer ?? dont they change ??
wires are the same but plugs are different. in some cases you can just use the obd2 dizzy on the originally obd1 engine. but it depends on what engine you are swapping in and what you are swapping out? also if you have an obd2b 99-00 vehicle then you will need to run the tach lead wire from the dizzy to the service connector port at the driverside corner where the firewall and fender meet.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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wires are the same but plugs are different. in some cases you can just use the obd2 dizzy on the originally obd1 engine. but it depends on what engine you are swapping in and what you are swapping out? also if you have an obd2b 99-00 vehicle then you will need to run the tach lead wire from the dizzy to the service connector port at the driverside corner where the firewall and fender meet.
i have a 99 dx coupe idk what motor it had i know it was a single i got it as a shell
i have an 94 single cam non v going into the ek

so the obd1 motor needs to have
obd2 altenator
obd2 dizzy
obd2 injectors
obd2 ecu
using an obd2 harness

and it will run correct ?? i dont care about check engine light at all it can be on
all it wants i dont care as long as i know my car is fine and runs
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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yeah as long as everything has been hooked up right then yea
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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ok so you would have had a d16y7 and i presume you have a d15b7 to drop in. both non-vtec so no issue there


however, you absolutely have to do the ckf bypass. i don't believe it will run at all if you don't.

now with no knock sensor hooked up i know you will get a code, but i'm not sure exactly how it will affect driveability.
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Originally Posted by D16SiHatch
ok so you would have had a d16y7 and i presume you have a d15b7 to drop in. both non-vtec so no issue there


however, you absolutely have to do the ckf bypass. i don't believe it will run at all if you don't.

now with no knock sensor hooked up i know you will get a code, but i'm not sure exactly how it will affect driveability.
how do i do that bypass ? crank fluctuating etc pass ??
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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