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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 10:25 PM
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Default Nitrous and Autox does it work?

I was just wondering if anyone has tried using the bottle in autox. I'm usually a drag racer, but after my first autox event I have found a new love. I didn't try my bottle on the track, but I'm really tempted to try it. Just wondering if anyone has experience with this and maybe if you can provide some opinions if it's a good idea or not.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Probably not a super idea. Traction can be an issue with that too.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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It's not even legal to have the bottle in the car, let alone use it.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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It's not even legal to have the bottle in the car, let alone use it.

even if it was
its not intelligent. your gonna have enough problems with understeer let alone with nos.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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Well actually under the WCMA rulebook n2o is legal, it's the same as turbo or supercharger which is 4 additional points. However, I do see everyone's point so I guess I'll let the bottle do it's work on the strip and just improve on my driving skill.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 11:07 PM
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well...i did use it at an AUTOX....there was a long straight at the begining....no one could believe how fast the little sohc civic was coming out of the hole!!! i only filled the line and then turned bottle off....was enough for 4 seconds of BOOST....i did it for a friend he was driving my car too....holy cow....he got sideways at the first turn....he came back and said leave it on for the whole race...i was like,....hmm they are gonna know something is up when you are 4 seconds faster than everyone!!!
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 03:05 AM
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Not only is it illegal, but if my club catches you using it, we'll kindly ask you to leave and not come back.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 04:41 AM
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Well if it is allowed in the rules, such as CNAC does, then why not use it? Sure it will cause all kinds of traction problems, but if it is rigged up like a typical drag race installation, ie: only engages at WOT, it could be possible to make it quite effective with a proper driving technique.

IMO, if it is properly installed, there are no safety issues with using laughing gas...
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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Well if it is allowed in the rules, such as CNAC does, then why not use it? Sure it will cause all kinds of traction problems, but if it is rigged up like a typical drag race installation, ie: only engages at WOT, it could be possible to make it quite effective with a proper driving technique.

IMO, if it is properly installed, there are no safety issues with using laughing gas...
Yeah I agree... I've never understood why it wasn't allowed in most autocross events. It is possible that it could help, and it wouldn't be any worse then lagged turbo for sure.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 12:05 PM
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If you showed to an SCCA event (well our region) we would ask you to disconnect the bottle and take it out. Most NOS bottles whether you have it bolted down tight or not can become a bomb inside your car ESPECIALLY if you roll over and it can also become a missle if the straps are not on right.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 12:28 PM
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When would you ever be able to get high enough RPMs to shot the load before your braking for the next corner???

Just say NO to nnnaaaaaawwwwwwwwzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 04:25 AM
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nos is legal out here with NASA
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 08:03 AM
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nawzzzzzzzzzzzzz ownz joo everywhere...street strip drag track autox....i have used it everywhere and it rocks!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:08 AM
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Default Re: Nitrous and Autox does it work? (Chad)

nawzzzzzzzzzzzzz ownz joo everywhere...street strip drag track autox....i have used it everywhere and it rocks!!!
I'm a personal fan of it while parallel parking.

I can't see it being much use at an autox though... some courses make a turbo ALMOST useless, and that's with AWD to harness the power.
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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I see their point...There are courses now and then with long straights that NOS would help, however. It would be more beneficial in these then turbos, case it does not have to spool up like a turbo. It would not be much help on MOST courses that do not have a straight long enough to make it useful. Most of the time spent on course in autocrosses is in turns and at partial throttle.

Now as for why they do not allow it, as was stated earlier, it easily can become a projectile in an accident. Drag strips are a much more controlled area and you are much less likely to have a car roll and/or crash at a drag strip. This is also why NOS is illegal on the street in alot of states. I am sure it is not allowed at autocrosses due to insurance reasons too. Basically, if you have it, take the bottle out before you autocross. loose compressed gas containers when the valves are broken off are scary. I am a safety engineer and have see the aftermath of what one of these can do.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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Default Re: Nitrous and Autox does it work? (C5_ALLMOTOR)

you're not even allowed to have N20 on the event site in my region....you'll be asked to leave, remove the bottle, and THEN you can come back. if you need N20 to be faster on an autoX course, you aren't doing something right. having more power doesn't mean you're gonna be faster. stop trying to be vin diesel and just learn how to ******* drive.
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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Nitrous and Autox does it work? (carl_aka_carlos)

Yes, I agree that the driver is what makes the most difference on the autox track. Now I'm not sure how the classes are seperated in your region, but in my region,I am classes with cars that are much more powerful and better handling characteristics. Now suppose you have two drivers with similar driving skills, can you deny the fact that they person with the more capable car should come out on top?

I'm not trying to argue who's right or wrong, but it is truly disappointing reading unproductive comments on this board from ignorant people, who just jumps to conclusions and bashes people.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 05:44 AM
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Default Re: Nitrous and Autox does it work? (SuperRice)

Go find out for yourself then...

The issue remains that if you've only run one AutoX, then you're probably years away from getting the true potential from your car. Using NOS (since you say it's legal) may make you faster, but I believe it would hurt your learning process. It depends on what your goals are I guess.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 06:53 AM
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"better handling characteristics"

See that is the key in autocross.. nos is useless to me if the car cannot handel, I have been to some events where the fast times were turned in by Miata's and MR2 Spyders, and a few where the fast was a 2ng gen crx all of the cars had less then 140 HP, beating cars suchs as Z06's, Porsches and such, some with double the hp of car that sets fastest RAW time. Driver and Handel are what is import in auto -x HP is very very secondary.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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Its your car/driving experience, SuperRice. If it's legal in your event, then it comes down to:


-whether the specific course will allow you to take advantage of the added power. (Keep in mind the extra torque at low RPM will mean you may not have to downshift as much).

-whether you want to learn to drive your car w/ N20, or w/o. If you get enough runs, I would try it both ways. It's like running two different cars through the
course, and I've always said that the more cars you can drive the more you will learn. Sure, you may not learn as much about a single setup on your own car, but overall you will become a better driver.


Sorry you had to sift through some useless comments.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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Well I am actually going to try it out for myself this weekend. Thanx for the input guys, I appreciate everyone's constructive criticism. I'll post my verdic regarding nitrous after the event.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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if you don't think it's okay, then it's not okay.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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I'm a personal fan of it while parallel parking.
hahaha!!!!! I like it!!!!!

I am only use it after letting my car sit for the night starting in the morning on a cold day to get the heater going...see the way i see it the harder the engine works when it is cold the warmer it will get then I can pull heat in from the engine bay

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