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97 Civic EX brake lights won't work - cut wires under dash

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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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Default 97 Civic EX brake lights won't work - cut wires under dash

ive check the wires back to the lights and the grounds and the fuses.these 4 wires were cut when i took out my dash and have no pug for them, i also dont believe this is the stock switch is it?








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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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Please downsize your pics and repost them - they are so huge and grainy that it's impossible to see anything without having to scoll.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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BTW:

From what I can see (by scrolling lol) it looks like the plug for the brake light switch. Are the wires under the dash close to the brake pedal assembly, and is that open switch you posted screwed into the brake pedal mounting bracket?
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Oh and finally I'd love to post the wiring diagram for you to reference, but I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YEAR/MAKE/MODEL YOUR CAR IS since you didn't tell us.

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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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Oh and finally I'd love to post the wiring diagram for you to reference, but I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YEAR/MAKE/MODEL YOUR CAR IS since you didn't tell us.



If you hope to get help, then you must provide all relevant information about your car and engine:

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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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BTW here is what we need to know:

Year, make, model of vehicle and if it's automatic or 5-speed.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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there are 2 types of brake light switches (2 wire for non cruise control) and (4 wire for cruise control)
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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Sorry, 97 civic ex manual , yes the wires were right infront of the switch , I dunno how to downsize but if u click the photo it will link it to the right size, All other lights work
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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jump the switch and see if they work also use a test light to make sure that there is voltage avilable
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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The Wht/Grn wire gets voltage from hood fuse 52 and runs to the brake switch on the pedal. The Grn/Wht wire runs from the brake switch to the brake lights in the rear.
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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correct the white green goes the fusebox under the hood ,however i followed the green white and it goes to this white plug with a blue insert and is tapped up ??????? what does that plug do? so this mean no wire is going to my brakes?

also does anyone have the pin diagrams for both under the hood and dash fuse boxes and plugs connected to them?








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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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^That's probably junction connector C442. At that point, the Grn/White wire from the brake switch branches into multiple Grn/Wht wires, one of which runs to the brake lights.

Check whether all four Grn/Wht wires at C442 have battery voltage to body ground only when the brake pedal is depressed.




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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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if im holding this correctly it seems that there are wires not even pinned if this is c442 that is




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i found a plug taped in the harness and it fits and the light work, but when the brake lights come on the side markers and parking lights do as well, the previous owner must of done a real hack job





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green white white green wires, i made a jumper from the cream colored wire to the brake switch and the green wire and the brake lights work again with the parking lights




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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Not sure I follow all that you did. So does everything work properly now?
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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no i cant get the brake lights to work with out the parking lots to come on as well. also does c442 look like its missing wires to the pins?
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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no i cant get the brake lights to work with out the parking lots to come on as well. also does c442 look like its missing wires to the pins?
The wrong type of brake light bulb may be installed. They should be double-filament rather than single-filament bulbs. Check that first.

I think C442 may be fine if you don't see any cut or loose wires.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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bulbs are good, thanks for all your help ronj@ht . do you know where i can get more good info like the pin diagram above?
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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Does the bulb number of the installed bulbs match what is recommended at the link below?

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...RG-Results.htm
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