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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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I have a 96 civic hatch and i have skunk2 coilovers and camber kit. For some reason my lower ball joint hits my rotor when i turn. As you can see in the picture it has rubbed a hole in the shield. Has anyone ever had this problem and how do you fix it? and the hatch is not lowered that much.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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ive had the problem... when undoing the ball joint.. the shiel usually gets bent towards the rotor and is scraping... which usually happens on turns but can also rub when the wheel is straight.. try and just pry the sheild away from the rotor as much as possible.... works every time, just use a screwdriver or pry bar
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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and your sheild definetly looks pretty banged up...
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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its the lower arm control that is hitting the shield!
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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imma have to agree with bart jus pull it away from the control arm
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:07 AM
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hmmm that's looks weird, i never had that problem or saw that happen...kinda looks like it could possibly be a bad wheel bearing. it's possible to rub but should never wear a hole through it like that
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:09 AM
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With your situation, just pull the shield away from the ball joint. There are other cases of this happening, but not with stock brake set-ups.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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The wheel bearing on the pass side is brand new and it still does it there, and its not the LBJ thats hitting the shield its the LAC.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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that shield is flimsy and very bendible...like everybody else just said, use a screwdriver and bend it away. Not that big of a deal.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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thats not my problem, my problem is my is my LCA hitting the rotor
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...y/IMG_0462.jpg

this is with the car on the ground
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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You guy's arent completely understanding wtf he's talking about... The LCA goes through the brake shield and grooves into the rotor, so it's penetrating deeper in than we can see...

Someone with an EK hatch can you go check ur LCA's and see if they curve up like that where the lower ball joint goes in... My EG's LCA goes straight it doesn't have that little curve up near the outer end..
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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damn definitely something else going on there thats not good at all, good luck with that
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Yeah that's what I'm saying... This is my cousins EK hatch "drtysoufchevy" so I'm trying to help him out a bit here but he lives across state or this issue would be fixed already hahaha... Naa but seriously, to me I think those are possibly the wrong LCA's or wrong Camber Kit making them touch at the bottom like that... When the front wheel is cambered in, it doesn't touch he said, but when the camber is set at 0 and the wheel is straight up/down it touches like we see in the pics... I can only imagine all the lovely noises that must make while doing 90 on I-75 lol...
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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its because you pushed the camber all the way positive.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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What does the car look like from the outside? How low is it that you're compensating so much with the camber kit?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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the first original pic doesnt show the ball joint maxed out like that so what he is saying and showing are two different things.. the second pic that shows the problem is what should have originally been shown... i def agree its cause the camber kit is maxed towards the positive direction, which the original pic does show.... how is the other side looking...
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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the other side is doing the same
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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the 1st pic was with the car jacked up and the camber has to b all the way positive or the tire will camber too much
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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odd... thats not very low.. how about a side shot to show wheel angle vs. body angle..
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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Default Re: lower ball joint hitting rotor

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its because you pushed the camber all the way positive.
Why is your camber kit all the way positive? My car is lowered the same amount and when I had a camber kit installed on my car I was adding 1 degreee of NEGATIVE camber. I have since removed the camber kit and am using stock control arms again. There is no need for a camber kit at that drop level. Your only reducing suspension travel with the upper control arm hitting the top of the fenderwell.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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I've had this happen just recently.

Granted if you have stock brakes I would imagine something is broken or otherwise wrong.

Mine was because I have upgraded brakes. My understanding is this can happen with 4-lug systems with brake upgrades. The 5-lug (like ITR) don't suffer from this. So if someone is looking for a brake upgrade they might want to keep this in mind.

'98 EX coupe
- Fortune Auto 500 coilovers
- 11.1" Prelude rotors
- ITR calipers
- Buddy Club Roll Center Adjusters
- Skunk2 Pro camber kit (only did this because the a-arms needed to be replaced)
- New stock tie rods

Here's what mine looked like and it might give people a bit of an idea what this looks like when it happens.

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We tried raising the car back up. Didn't help. In fact, the photo above was taken when the car was riding at damn near stock ride height. I was told to raise the car up, that the car was too low. Then I shocked them by showing how the car wasn't low in the least bit.

In fact, I had this problem, though not nearly as bad, when the car had the brake job, but stock struts and S-Techs.

Camber wasn't all stupid either. Everything was beautiful... except I was still having this problem.

As you can see in the photo the ball joint and the rotor were almost making contact all the time.

My solution was to get Spoon Sports 3mm wheel spacers from RHD Japan. Never had a problem since those have been installed. They're not expensive either.

Here's the rotor when I took it off btw.

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And how low was I really?

http://imgur.com/AXoGN.jpg

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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Default Re: lower ball joint hitting rotor

Originally Posted by NOFX
I've had this happen just recently.

Mine was because I have upgraded brakes. My understanding is this can happen with 4-lug systems with brake upgrades. The 5-lug (like ITR) don't suffer from this. So if someone is looking for a brake upgrade they might want to keep this in mind.

'98 EX coupe
- Fortune Auto 500 coilovers
- 11.1" Prelude rotors
- ITR calipers
- Buddy Club Roll Center Adjusters
- Skunk2 camber kit (only did this because the a-arms needed to be replaced)
- New stock tie rods

Here's what mine looked like and it might give people a bit of an idea what this looks like when it happens.



We tried raising the car back up. Didn't help. In fact, the photo above was taken when the car was riding at damn near stock ride height. I was told to raise the car up, that the car was too low. Then I shocked them by showing how the car wasn't low in the least bit.

In fact, I had this problem, though not nearly as bad, when the car had the brake job, but stock struts and S-Techs.

Camber wasn't all stupid either. Everything was beautiful... except I was still having this problem.

As you can see in the photo the ball joint and the rotor were almost making contact all the time.

My solution was to get Spoon Sports spacers. Never had a problem since those have been installed.

Here's the rotor when I took it off btw.
I would say your problem was a combination of the camber kit and the roll center adjusters. Your solution works too.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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yeah I thought that it was the camber kit, so i just made it more neg. And it dont seem to rub anymore but the tires are deff cambered now. I originally had the car aligned at a shop. and thats how they had it aligned, so i figured they knew what they were doin since they are the only ones around NPR that kno how to align lowered cars or so i thought, haha
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