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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Default How to paint a 99 civic si - Milano Red R81

I want to paint both of my bumpers and both of my fenders, also i would like to paint both front and rear lip. i just need to know how much of each coat i need and any other usefull information.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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every painter paints differently and every paint is different. Some cover well and others don't. I usually use 3 coats of paint and 2 coats of clear.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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its hard to say how many coats but on the clear i would agree with 2. with the base i have found that reds tend to not cover very well unless uyou use a recommended ground coat. since your are painting the fenders have you thought about blending the doors to help with the color match? i do paint and body for a living so if you have any questions feel free to ask. im not sayin i know it all but i can be helpful on this subject.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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R81 milano red is a tri stage paint so you'd have to figure out how much of each stage to paint.sorry to kinda jack this but does anyone know or have a side by side of the difference of R97 Roma red which is a single stage base coat clear coat and the R81 Milano Red which is the tri stage paint.?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Roma Red is more of an orange-red color while Milano Red can have a pink or even purpleish tint to it, depending on the light.

The tricoat causes the color to slightly shift sometimes.

I have some photos of a Roma '96-'00 Civic hatch next to a Milano '96-'00 Civic coupe, but the light changes in the pics never really make it look right. It's really hard to tell the right difference in the photos I have.

This is honestly probably the best photo I can find that shows the difference I would see daily between these two colors. We've since sold one of the cars so I can't go take more photos.

Milano Red on the left (coupe). Roma Red on the right (hatch).

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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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so say the car is originaly r81 and i re paint the exterior r97 would you be able to see the difference by the jams? if so how noticable will the difference be?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 07Lxcoupe
so say the car is originaly r81 and i re paint the exterior r97 would you be able to see the difference by the jams? if so how noticable will the difference be?
Yes, you'll be able to see the difference. Yes, it will be super SUPER obvious.

Look at the photo above, which is taken under poor lighting: just two small haolgen light bulbs.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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with the amount of things you are painting i would just paint the entire car again just so it looks fresh. but if you wanna paint the panels front end you are going to need to blend into the hood and the doors
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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ok thanks man.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMloveDSMkilla
I want to paint both of my bumpers and both of my fenders, also i would like to paint both front and rear lip. i just need to know how much of each coat i need and any other usefull information.
So the OP wants these parts painted:
- Front bumper
- Rear bumper
- Right fender
- Left fender
- Front lip
- Rear lip

That hardly would cause me to give up nice OE paint on the entire car. Especially since it sounds like the OP wants to paint the part (and therefore, the entire car, if he did so) himself.

OP, I'd really recommend you price out painting for those parts professionally. Up until recently I had a painter who started at $300. He would paint as much as he could under $300 and he'd quote you more if it cost more.

For example, if I got just a front bumper repainted, it would be $300. But that would be the minimum just to cover all supplies. So he'd have more than enough paint for that bumper.

I ended up getting all this done for $300:
- Front bumper
- Front lip
- Rear lip
- Grille shell
- Driver's side skirt

He had a warranty for two years and/or two repaints.

When my parts were left there and I drove the car off it was more difficult to match the color than we expected. I came back to orangish pink parts. He apologized profusely and then repainted them all free of charge.

Man, I really miss Richard. Best painter I've ever had.

My car is also Milano Red. It's the coupe in that photo above. that was before the new parts/paint work. It's a '98 and the original paint looks great still. I would never repaint the body if it didn't need it.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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medium grey sealer, 2 coats of color and at least 2 coats of clear always work well for me with r81. ALWAYS at least 2 coats of clear. Die back will probably occur with just 1 coat. always spray 2 coats of clear.You can get milano red in a base/clear formula. It has the effect mixed in. Ive sprayed the base/clear formula very often and never have a problem with it matching factory cars. Its just a second option if you dont have the cash to get the midcoat. Like most said, blending the doors is a good idea if you want to spray the fenders.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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my 95 ex was milano. i had the exterior shot roma red and you cant tell the difference in the jambs. i think the roma looks better.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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milano red is nice color...
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 05:29 AM
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well thanks guys. i just wanted to c if this site is good for asking questions and it is. uve helped alot
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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The photo I posted earlier is Milano Red on the left (coupe) and Roma Red on the right (hatch).

The Milano Red always looks deeper both in color and clarity imo.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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you're going to need at least a gallon of basecoat... and at least a gallon of reducer to reduce all that basecoat... then maybe a gallon n a half of clear... start out with 80 grit and finish in 150grit and spray
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