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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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Ive got a 2000 dx. Stock d16y7. I just recently purchased a Y8 head with intake manifold, injectors, etc. Anyways, the head I got is stamped p2j-6 on the exhaust side. After some homework...it seems that the head is off a 97ex with a AUTO tranny. My car is a 2000 with a 5sp. Dumb question....but does it really make a difference? Also is it a mission to do the work. I know its not hard to work on a single cam, but I've never really messed around with this mini me stuff. What computer should I run....will my distributor work with that head......? Any and all info is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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the head doesn't matter, the intake manifold does. 5 speed and automatic Y8 IMs are different. run a 5 speed manifold and 5 speed P2P ECU.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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how are the manifolds different....? i dont understand that concept! anyways....would my distributor work with this head? Im sure I have to run wires to the vtec solenoid...i would need a schematic.....
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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Dizzy will work fine.

The common rumor is that auto heads aren't made as "durable" as manual heads. Believe what you want.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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how are the manifolds different....? i dont understand that concept!
5 speed Y8s have a 2 wire linear IACV (all OBD1 D-series engines and all B-series engines use this setup) on the back of the IM, automatic Y8s have a 3 wire rotary IACV on the throttle body (all Y7s have this setup, and I think automatic Y5s) Automatics Y8 manifold have the mounting for the IACV blocked off, you can drill and tap the holes as well, but its usually easier for most people to just find a 5 speed manifold. You *should* be able to run a &y/automatic Y8 throttle body.

Originally Posted by Mike_Rodriguez8
anyways....would my distributor work with this head? Im sure I have to run wires to the vtec solenoid...i would need a schematic.....
Distributor will work, you will need to add vtec wiring and convert to a 2 wire IACV. Both shown below:


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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Very nice write up. Thanks. That sounds easy enough. It states Knock Sensor wiring....would I already have a knock sensor? Anyways....I just came across some NPR pistons on the cheap new in the box, cant wait to high compression, and let this mini me scream!!!!!
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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get some cbr600 itbs, zex cam and a 75 shot for it now...
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike_Rodriguez8
Very nice write up. Thanks. That sounds easy enough. It states Knock Sensor wiring....would I already have a knock sensor? Anyways....I just came across some NPR pistons on the cheap new in the box, cant wait to boost, and let this mini me scream!!!!!
Fixed it for you.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
get some cbr600 itbs, zex cam and a 75 shot for it now...



Some CBR600 ITBS....please explain!
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 05:01 AM
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they are like $25 off ebay.
get a z6 intake mani and cut it in half.
use the z6 flange and like 6 inches of runner.

the z6 mani and the runners match up almost perfect.
just weld the 2 together

then you can use the d16 fuel rail and injectors on the z6 part

the cb600 itbs have the tps and map right on it
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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OBD2B 99-00 D16y8 have air injection in the Intake manifold, different thermostat case housing and air assist solenoid valve, as well as different OBD2B p2p ecu.

I'm not sure how difficult it is to downgrade to obd2a because I have no experience with it, but this was the whole reason I gave up on the mini me for my 99 LX, cost me as much to get all the correct parts to run it obd2b as it would to buy a complete 99-00 d16y8 engine.

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tlarimer
OBD2B 99-00 D16y8 have air injection in the Intake manifold, different thermostat case housing and air assist solenoid valve, as well as different OBD2B p2p ecu.

I'm not sure how difficult it is to downgrade to obd2a because I have no experience with it, but this was the whole reason I gave up on the mini me for my 99 LX, cost me as much to get all the correct parts to run it obd2b as it would to buy a complete 99-00 d16y8 engine.
I hear ya....just last night, I saw found a d16y8 full swap for $450 on craigslist. Almost tempted to offer $350....and just drop it in. But put on my high compression pistons, and some other goodies on first of course
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