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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Hello All. been having tons of issues getting my aem eugo Wideband to read in smanager. ive tried running the white wire to d14 and d10, tried running the blue wire to d14 and d10 but i still cant get it to read correctly.

this is on a 1994 integra LS-T with a s300 p75

which wire do i use? ive tried setting it to the correct wire in closed loop tab, but still no luck.

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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When you wired it into the ELD input did you remove the two resistors that you are supposed to remove & disable the ELD in the parameters ?
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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When you wired it into the ELD input did you remove the two resistors that you are supposed to remove & disable the ELD in the parameters ?
which resistors are they? do you have a picture or diagram? i hear they can be snipped with a finger nail clipper.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Click help in smanager & search for wideband they are listed in the help file.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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To enable a clean 0-5v input on the ELD pin D10. You need to remove the resistors @ R136 & R138. This being said, I have found that it works even better if you replace both of the resistors with ether a 100K or 1M Ω resistors.

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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You want to make sure your using the white wire, that's the 0-5v output from the wideband. The blue wire is an RS-232 serial wire for datalogging. I've hooked these up on a couple Hondata S300 ECU's and I always use the B6 (Analog 2) pin into the ECU. Then just go into Settings in SManager and set your offset in the Analog 2 tab. For AEM Uego it would be 0v-10 and 5v-20. When going to input B6 you also have to remove 2 resistors in the ECU, these two are R2 and R3. They are right next to each other in the middle on the left side of the ECU.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Wow iv never heard this and mine seems to work fine. I installed it into b6 with no voltage offset and have 0v=10 2.43=14 and 5v=20a/f. What happens if u dont do this or maybe mine already has these resistors removed?? I got the ecu from phearable with the s300 installed and i also ordered the uego at the same time. I checked the help section and saw that if using eld resistors needed to be removed but nothing for b6??
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Open smanager, click help, click contents, click search, type b6, click list topics.
"Pin B6 can be used as a 0-5V analog input. Note that the ECU must have R2 and R3 removed or replaced with 1N4148 diodes. "

The Smanager help file is there for a reason.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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Yeah i use it all the time...smart ***. Never used the search option though haha. So the pic shown has the resistors already removed right? how should I remove them? Toenail clippers does sound pretty easy, but y does it seem to work ok now with the resistors in place? What would be the point in replaceing it with a diode? cause it says remove OR replace. Guess il go pull the ecu and check it out. Thanks for all the info mtber
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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the help file is very limited within smanager. it tells you what to do, but now how to do it. im going to give b6 a shot in a bit with no voltage offset. would you mind posting either your calibration or a screenshot of your closed loop tab? Please and thanks
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Got it working, thanks for all the input. I was looking at an incorrwct pinout and had the wires hooked up wrong. usind d10 with a voltage offset of -.45.


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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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so did u remove the resistors??
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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so did u remove the resistors??
no.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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oh well wth!! guess the smart *** comment was too much for mr mtber to come back and give us some much needed info. Sorry dude didnt mean to get ur panties in a bunch, il hit the wallet next time by not promoting nor purchasing anything from phearable anymore. There base maps are crap by the way, which is cool besides the point where they bragged to me about it. I made a better base map by just scaling the stock p28 to what injectors i had.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sr420Det
oh well wth!! guess the smart *** comment was too much for mr mtber to come back and give us some much needed info. Sorry dude didnt mean to get ur panties in a bunch, I made a better base map by just scaling the stock p28 to what injectors i had.
This is a very mature way to get people to help you. Maybe you should learn to read and do the research on your own. if you can't remove a resistor or you don't know what the benefits of diodes are. Then you really shouldn't even remove the cover of an ECU, never mind modifying the circuits on one.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 04:52 AM
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My point exactly!! Your right chosing who I spend my money with and weather I promote them based on there actions sounds pretty mature to me.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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What actions? mtber gave you the information that you wanted. However, Just because he didn't spoon feed you within 24hrs with an step by step, with images and an explanation of basic electronics. Your going to cry, and put them down. That's a shame!
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 05:37 AM
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nah whats a shame is him talking to his customers the way he does. "the smanger has a help screen for a reason", as if Im a idiot. Thats a ****in shame for him, my **** works fine without removing the resistor as does the op. I never had any trouble hookin mine up besides the base map they supplyed was richer than 10:1 but it didnt take me long to figure out that there was no problem with my wideband just there crappy basemap that they were braggin about.
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