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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Hi people,

This sounds strange: when gas tank is over about 1/4 full, engine starts fine without hesitation/excessive cranking. But when tank goes below 1/4 full, starts hard/stalls/etc. Anyone ever experience this?

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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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OK....if I can ask it a different way: How many miles until you had to replace the fuel pump, guys??

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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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102k and still on the original fuel pump.
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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ya honda fuel pumps do not go out and have to be replaced as often as Chevrolet or Ford do. Those usually last only 100k. Honda fuel pumps are so much better. Im still on factory fuel pump and i have 112k miles
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Nearly 200K, still original pump. I don't know about this generation, but my 2000 would always start hard when it was low on fuel. Turns out to be a pretty common problem for those cars.
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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the gauge is problaly sitting lower than the pump, or your gauges are a little inaccurate.
Mine can be on E right on and still start fine, still gets about 20 k to it too ( i fill by then )
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Try turning the key to position II and then listening for the whirring. When the whirring stops, turn the key all the way to start the car.

With all my Civics I have found starting to be easier using this method. I think the fuel pump is activated when the key is turned to position II, priming the fuel lines and making for an easier start.
Old Jul 29, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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It's normal.
Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Check your tank, see if their is any wound because can cause the gauge to give a false reading.

To check the fuel pump put a 1 qt of automatic transmition fluid an fill the gas tank, if the problems goes away for a few weeks is the pump. Don`t worry for the AT fluid, won`t foul your spark plugs, lubricate the pump, prevents corrosion in the tank and clean the fuel inyectors. This is a very common trick used by Old Mercedez -Benz mechanics.
Old Jul 29, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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Check your tank, see if their is any wound because can cause the gauge to give a false reading.

To check the fuel pump put a 1 qt of automatic transmition fluid an fill the gas tank, if the problems goes away for a few weeks is the pump. Don`t worry for the AT fluid, won`t foul your spark plugs, lubricate the pump, prevents corrosion in the tank and clean the fuel inyectors. This is a very common trick used by Old Mercedez -Benz mechanics.

Our gas tanks are plastic, there would be no dents, or corrosion. Please stop giving bad advice.



Do not pour any ATF into your gas tank. If you want to clean, use Seafoam.
Old Jul 30, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tico Loco
Check your tank, see if their is any wound because can cause the gauge to give a false reading.

To check the fuel pump put a 1 qt of automatic transmition fluid an fill the gas tank, if the problems goes away for a few weeks is the pump. Don`t worry for the AT fluid, won`t foul your spark plugs, lubricate the pump, prevents corrosion in the tank and clean the fuel inyectors. This is a very common trick used by Old Mercedez -Benz mechanics.
WTF?!?!?!?

DO NOT put atf in the gas tank.

Mine does the same thing it's because the gages on hondas are inaccurate. Or the float in the tank could be stuck slightly when it gets low. Best way to solve this is when low on gas turn your car to the II position let the fuel pump prime then start. If I don't do this when I'm low on gas it hesitates to start when I'm cranking. When you do this you will here a quite wine from the back of the car for around 2 seconds then it will stop thats the fuel pump coming and a pulling in gas from the tank.

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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Our gas tanks are plastic, there would be no dents, or corrosion. Please stop giving bad advice.



Do not pour any ATF into your gas tank. If you want to clean, use Seafoam.

Any Honda Civic before 1998 had a metal tank, I have a 1995 EX Coupe and have sold more than 100 hondas Civics ( 1992-1997)in the past 4 years ( I am a reseler ) It`s clear that you think you know all the answer and you donīt ! and you do not apreciate experience !

I only trying to help! I bet you are very young!
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Any Honda Civic before 1998 had a metal tank, I have a 1995 EX Coupe and have sold more than 100 hondas Civics ( 1992-1997)in the past 4 years ( I am a reseler ) It`s clear that you think you know all the answer and you donīt ! and you do not apreciate experience !

I only trying to help! I bet you are very young!

A. I've never once claimed to have all the answers, but I do have my fair share of knowledge about these cars considering that I currently own one.

B. What "experience" are you referring to? If you knew that the fuel tanks are plastic, why the "wound" reference? Any "wound" on a plastic fuel tank wouldn't cause an inaccurate reading, because there would be no dent to throw off an otherwise accurate fuel reading.

C. If you're more familiar with the earlier Civics, perhaps you should stick with posting in the 1992 - 2000 Honda Civic / Del Sol forum.

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A. I've never once claimed to have all the answers, but I do have my fair share of knowledge about these cars considering that I currently own one.

B. What "experience" are you referring to? If you knew that the fuel tanks are plastic, why the "wound" reference? Any "wound" on a plastic fuel tank wouldn't cause an inaccurate reading, because there would be no dent to throw off an otherwise accurate fuel reading.

C. If you're more familiar with the earlier Civics, perhaps you should stick with posting in the 1992 - 2000 Honda Civic / Del Sol forum.


For your information European, Japan and Latin American versions have metals tanks until 2003. And I know some people have import some Acuras, Hondas and Nissans from Japan into the USA, so you never know!
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For your information European, Japan and Latin American versions have metals tanks until 2003. And I know some people have import some Acuras, Hondas and Nissans from Japan into the USA, so you never know!
7th generation Civics? I don't spend my time looking under everyone's car, but I haven't seen an ES1, ES2 or EM2 with a metal gas tank. Would someone from abroad (Europe, Asia, etc) liike to photo their gas tank to show that it is in fact metal and not plastic. I'm curious now, and a photograph would be perfect.

Are we talking about 7th gen Civics, or Honda / Acura in general? Also, this is Honda-Tech, not Nissan-Tech. I don't personally know of anyone who has imported a 7th generation Honda Civic into the United States.
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Originally Posted by Tico Loco
Any Honda Civic before 1998 had a metal tank, I have a 1995 EX Coupe and have sold more than 100 hondas Civics ( 1992-1997)in the past 4 years ( I am a reseler ) It`s clear that you think you know all the answer and you donīt ! and you do not apreciate experience !

I only trying to help! I bet you are very young!
Sounds like you are a dishonest seller. ATF belongs in the god damn transmission. I dont think i have seen any newer cars with metal tanks they use plastic now adays. My 95 has a metal tank. my 05 has plastic. is the plastic has a dent in it we have HUGE problems.

and if i wanted experience i wouldn't ask you since you clearly do not know what your talking about with your quick fix hack jobs.
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I've been working on car's longer than you have been born, this is not a "old trick" this is just flat out STUPID. Transmission fluid is not meant to be inside the fuel system AT ALL, no expection's whether it be a metal or plastic tank! It will gum up the injector's or even clog up the fuel pump. Gentleman do not listen to this fool he is in farrr over his head.

Originally Posted by Tico Loco
For your information European, Japan and Latin American versions have metals tanks until 2003. And I know some people have import some Acuras, Hondas and Nissans from Japan into the USA, so you never know!
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sol_searchin
I've been working on car's longer than you have been born, this is not a "old trick" this is just flat out STUPID. Transmission fluid is not meant to be inside the fuel system AT ALL, no expection's whether it be a metal or plastic tank! It will gum up the injector's or even clog up the fuel pump. Gentleman do not listen to this fool he is in farrr over his head.
Do you work on your cars before 1960? I donīt think so! If you havenīt done it, you canīt tell. If you check the Owner manual form a Old Mercedez ( not a comercial mechanics manual ) around 35 years old, you could read it by youself, but I am not waisting more time with this issue.

Some guys really have an attitud problem, we donīt even know if he solve his problem or not, and thatīs what really matters!

The ATF in the tank is not a fix, is a test genius!

I have being writing for more than 5 years in the TURNER Forun because I also have a 1990 BMW M3 EVO3 as my daily driven and I havenīt see anythig like this! In the other Forun they may be more polite than here!
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Originally Posted by Tico Loco
Do you work on your cars before 1960? I donīt think so! If you havenīt done it, you canīt tell. If you check the Owner manual form a Old Mercedez ( not a comercial mechanics manual ) around 35 years old, you could read it by youself, but I am not waisting more time with this issue.

Some guys really have an attitud problem, we donīt even know if he solve his problem or not, and thatīs what really matters!

The ATF in the tank is not a fix, is a test genius!

I have being writing for more than 5 years in the TURNER Forun because I also have a 1990 BMW M3 EVO3 as my daily driven and I havenīt see anythig like this! In the other Forun they may be more polite than here!

- What does working on cars prior to 1960 have anything to do with 2001 - 2005 Civics, or this forum? Nothing!

- Let's say a 35 year old MB owner's manual does suggest doing this in an antique Mercedes. What does that have to do with 2001 - 2005 Civics? Nothing!

- When you come in here giving bad advice, then cop an attitude like you know what you're talking about, expect to get an attitude in return!

- ATF in the tank is a test for what? To see how many Civic owners would follow your bad advice and screw up their car(s)? "It says to do this in a 35 year old MB manual. Look for yourself!"

- What does your 1990 BMW have to do with 2001 - 2005 Civics, or this forum? Nothing!

Your "other forum" is likely "more polite" because people aren't coming on there giving bad advice from a 35 year old owner's manual which has nothing to do with the vehicles featured on said site.

All that being said, please, troll somewhere else.


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:facepalm: Your comparing a European car to a Japanese car not to mention that there is a 45 year difference between the 1960 and 2005 things change!
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Originally Posted by Tico Loco
Do you work on your cars before 1960? I donīt think so! If you havenīt done it, you canīt tell. If you check the Owner manual form a Old Mercedez ( not a comercial mechanics manual ) around 35 years old, you could read it by youself, but I am not waisting more time with this issue.

Some guys really have an attitud problem, we donīt even know if he solve his problem or not, and thatīs what really matters!

The ATF in the tank is not a fix, is a test genius!

I have being writing for more than 5 years in the TURNER Forun because I also have a 1990 BMW M3 EVO3 as my daily driven and I havenīt see anythig like this! In the other Forun they may be more polite than here!
knock knock!
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2010.
Now take your smart *** know it all attuitude and GTFO.
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Enough's enough.
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