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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 03:47 AM
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Default Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump, Who Is Using One?

The search function is giving me no love on this, despite the fact that I KNOW Miller has said on here that he swears by the Boost-A-Pump. Actually, that is the only reason I knew they even existed.

So, I was just wondering who all was using one of these, and if anyone had encountered any issues with one.

Secondary question that I'm guessing won't really be answerable here: is anyone using one with a returnless fuel system that incorporates a FPR at the tank?

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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:17 AM
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Love it, use em all the time on all sorts of projects at my shop.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:36 AM
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I have done several cars with the regulator in the back. They work fine, it's just a pain when you have to adjust it.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:38 AM
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MSD also makes a 22volt voltage booster that you can map with a laptop kinda like a digital 7 pro box.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Thanks guys!

Turbotyper@spec, are you saying you put a boost referenced regulator at the back, and you just route a vacuum/boost line to the back instead of routing a return line from the regulator at the front of the car back to the tank?

Regarding the MSD 22V booster, is there any down side to that one? Does it also function as a voltage regulator at 13.5V or whatever when the signal isn't telling it to boost up to 22V?

I appreciate the input!
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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yeah you can set it for alternator voltage and then adjust from there up to 30 psi, after 30 psi it holds the same voltage that was set at 30 psi.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Sounds sweet! I may have missed it, but I'm not aware of the ability to ramp up the voltage increase in the Boost-A-Pump. It seems to be an on or off deal. . . I'll have to try to confirm that, and check more into that MSD.

Thanks!
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Can this be used to regulate voltage to the ecu (injectors) aswell? My car seems to drop voltage in the high rpms, I would like to be able to regulate a constant voltage to the pumps, and injectors..
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Can this be used to regulate voltage to the ecu (injectors) aswell? My car seems to drop voltage in the high rpms, I would like to be able to regulate a constant voltage to the pumps, and injectors..
you are going to overload it doing that stuff, its made to provide STORED power im sure, it doesnt just magically convert 12v to 22v or maybe im missing something.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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I'd think you'd need a separate output for the injectors that was regulated (not boosting), and I haven't seen that either of them have that. But shoot, maybe a boosted voltage to the injectors wouldn't actually hurt anything. You only really have to make sure the dead time is perfect at idle, and in the longer PW conditions it really isn't very critical.

Whoops, got treed on my response! I was thinking that these actually did step the voltage up. . .
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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I know the cobra guys all swear by the boost-a-pump, it seems like a pretty reliable system.

I've been wondering about using the boost-a-SPARK...Any body use the spark one? I wonder if the honda coil/ignitor can handle the extra voltage.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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Has anyone heard of Jacobs Accu-Volt? Im told that they dont make them anymore?

Apparently it was a voltage stabilizer they used to make, you could set the voltage at what you want and it would hold it stable there.

Anyone know of a product like that?
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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now that would be nice.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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for what its worth, when we installed them on the shelbys, we bypassed the hobbs switch. the blowers on the gt500 react so fast, we found witht he bap on all the time, it wasnt detimental

just some food for thought.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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I know that you werent asking for this but the site offers alot of good information on how it works.
http://www.kennebell.net/accessories...boostapump.htm
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 04:13 AM
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In the chart, pump #10211 is a Bosch 044.
#10297 is a Weldon 2025
I sell quite a few of them, never really hear anything negative about them, no failures that I'm aware of.
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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Awesome information Scott, thanks! (and by the way, your listed location cracked me up--VERY appropriate!)

One question I had is how the pump voltage got all the way up to 19.6V? I think there's something about the tables I'm not understanding properly.

Holy cow, you've got some SERIOUS pumps there! Methanol style volumes I guess, huh?

If I end up wanting to get one of these I'll try to drop by some time and get one from you.

Thanks again!
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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We use it in the Procco EVO for the 2 Bosch Pumps...
We have 4 -2200cc Injector Dynamics and we make 1075whp no problems whatsoever...
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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BAPs are just transformers with two coils inside to step voltage 'up'. We made those charts to show the correlation between the supply amperage (from the battery in your car) and the pump amperage at various voltages (or BAP %s, however you want to look at it). And to show what the pump flows at the increased voltages of course.
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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So the BAPs will push higher than 17.5V? Sorry if I'm being dense about this, maybe I'm not understanding, and I thought they topped out at 17.5V.
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Yes, in both of those examples the pumps are running at almost 20 volts on a 13.2 volt system.
You're only limited by the 40 amp BAP output capacity/limit.
As you can see, a single 044 only draws ~17 amps at ~20 volts, which is how Kings (and others) can get away with running twin 044's on a single BAP and still have a few amps to spare.
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Thank you! ! !
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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No prob.- that's why I'm here.
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