Im wanting to build up an ls vtec all motor with reliability need some help on some parts goal is 190-210whp.
I know this so far
B18b1 Block
Shot Penned Ls Rods
Type R Pistons
Arp Rod Bolts
Arp Head Studs
Golden Eagle Ls/v Kit
Anything Else...

B16 Head
What Cams,cam gears,valves,springs,and retainers should i go with anything else that could help me get a hi power decently to good reliable ls vtec set up would help.

 

morning bump

 

take a look at the all motor 1.8L dyno to get an idea of what cams and part combinations will make the power you want.

 

Guy knows a lil something something.

 

For the head, you cant go wrong with Skunk2 EVERYTHING. Valves, springs, retainers, cams, manifold

 

thats what im doing

 

my ls/v made 187 with ctr pistons and s2s2 cams with crappy dc headers and a stock exhuast.

 

Ok im cool with a full skunk2 head what about pro2 cams, and a 3angle valve job. also anything else i am missing to keep this built motor reliable?? alright went through a good bit of that dyno thread and seen nice set ups just need everthing else that is a good idea to put in my motor so its a good set up

 

lol

 

pro 2's might be over kill, im doing a similar build, but with b16 pistons... i have a typeR head with everything skunk, but im going with pro 1's even those may be a bit much...

with the pro 2's your going to give up a bit of driveabilty and bottom-midrange power... i would say, for you the tuner 2's or the pro 1's like me

 

ut oh here comes the tuner 2 vs pro 1 debate again lol i see it coming

 

i dunno really just want something good i was debating on pro2 vs tuner2

 

thats a HuUUUUGE difference...you should be debating between pro1's and tuner 2's

there a 10 page thread somewere in the all motor section about these cams for ls/v... unless your building a full out race motor you would hurt power withthe pro 2's...alos the valves would probly hit the pistons with them

 

you can make 190-200whp easy with type r cams and have no headaches with reliability and idle and valve springs, etc. the other cams use more rpm and that lowers motor life. if i was going to be happy with 190whp then I'd probably just use the itr cams.

 

i would stop worrying about the head and buy a crank girdle for the block and type r oil pump. If you want theres some people that have put in oil squatters in the blocks for even more reliability. And if its a daily motor, don't take it past 8,200rpm's. That's just what i would do for a solid strong motor.

 

Please define easy. I am at 190whp with ITR cams and it was not easy or cheap.
If I had a 89mm crank maybe, that would have given me 5-10whp. I also still have PS hooked up, maybe a few more there.

I would look at S2S2, Pro1, BC4, RM22x, JUN3, BISI Level 3.
If you have a well built set-up any of these should get you in the power range you seek.

 

So would ITR camshafts be good for a b16 head with out having to replace my valvetrain? and i guess i need a vtec water and oil pump and i dont know anything about a griddle?

 

Here's a lsvtec with pro 2 cams. Rsmachine pistons/stock rods etc, cccylinderheads head work

obviously works fine..check the dyno vid, 226whp

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...723025&page=13

 

just go b20 vtec if your goin all motor, alout more torque and thats what it comes down to in a allmotor race and shop around for a block girdle. There all great and will DEFENETLY save you're bottom end.

 

yea but what was his compression and exhaust size and what tuning program is he using. You need the lower end power to back up a high lift cam like pro2's.

i would say get a great port job on you're head and do supertech 12.1 compression pistons, stock rods arp rod bolts, block girdle, type r oil pump.
skunk 2 pro1's and supertech flat valves with springs n retainers.
camp1320 header or ssr header or bisimoto header
2 1/2" straight through no cat no rez just muffler
3" intake piping cold air, into a 70mm throttle body and edelbrock victor x intake port matched to the head.
440cc injectors,
with a good tuner on pump gas, ull be a happy customer. LOL
that's what i would do lol.

 

So what if i did B16 Head Skunk2 Tuner Stage2 Cams,Dual Springs,Valves,and retainers,along with Pro series cam gears?