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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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hey whats up i just got my car tuned and made
206hp & 146tq bone stock h22a long block just bolt ons

camp1320 headers
skunk 2 mani
70mm throttle body
stock fuel pressure
stock pump
stock maxed out injectors
im running a 3" exhaust no rez no cat and im wondering cause im torque is sooo low what should i do??? cause to me that seems low
i mean im going to get cams soon and so on but for now that number is low as f*ck.

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retuned and mad 155ft just messin with the fuel and some timing.

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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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bump cause im about to put back my 2 1/2" exhaust back on!!!??
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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its not your exhaust. possibly tuner error. it would help if you could post a dyno graph with the A/F ratio to go with it. no adjustable cam gears? its off by 10ft/lbs of torque at the most.... most folks averaging just over 200whp will get around 155-160ft/lbs of torque

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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Default Re: low torque numbers for h22!!!!!??? whats to do

something is off, that tq is too low
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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well the skunk 2 intake manifold is a high rpm intake so i would say that my be the problem

it's like putting crower 3's in ur car top end but know bottom end.

All the bolt ons that u have say hi rpm hp full race u don't have any parts that scream for torque. And acutally u really are not that far off. I made 153 tq with a h22a1 i/h/e dc header stock intake manifold and 70mm tb with 2.5 exahust.

U are ok it's just the intake manifold and those big runners i'm pretty sure it's making the ports lazy for incoming air.
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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h23v you make a good point. he's probably better off with the stock manifold port matched to a 68mm TB. OP, what i dont understand is why you bothered tuning the car on that current setup? after market cams would've really helped and made the trip to get it tuned worth while
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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i really think its that manifold also.
stock jdm h22a
private label manufacturing headers
2.5" mandrel bent exhaust, no cat not res, just vibrant flat black
and a coild air intake
stock h22 base map
i made 187hp and 155 torque. those h22 intake helps make that torque.
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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i woul keep the mani and throw a set of pro 1's and cam gears in there and redyno should be a nice lil reliable motor
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 95skunkedgsr
i woul keep the mani and throw a set of pro 1's and cam gears in there and redyno should be a nice lil reliable motor
x2 just don't expect the h23vtec tq numbers u are making some gd hp the tq should move a little but don't look for a big jump.
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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yeaa thanks guys i kinda figured that. Can having stock injectors and fuel pump do it, i mean ill post up my dyno graph as soon as i get a chance.
My A/F was 13.48 at 7,800, he told me my injectors are MAXED out so would it hurt to put in a set and a 190 fuel pump??? im goin to be buying cams soon so all the bolt on's will def complement them very nicely.

i lv the top end cause i was always building b series and there known for that, but this is my first h2b or h22 and i lv keepin up side by side with k's with a simple set up like mine.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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What brand/model dyno were these readings taken on?
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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your injectors are not maxed out. Not on a stock motor.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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yea there maxed out. Alouta tuners are seein with a set of 440dsm injectors on a stock h22a motor, with bolt on's there making more power, dyno proven. Im just gonna buy a set anyways for the cams i choose to get.

everyone is right about the long intake runners and big piping on the low torque reason.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Default Re: low torque numbers for h22!!!!!??? whats to do

Originally Posted by Scott_Tucker
What brand/model dyno were these readings taken on?
i think its a dynomite??? its brand new i know that.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Default Re: low torque numbers for h22!!!!!??? whats to do

either you dont have H series injectors, or your tuner is lying to you.

they are not maxed out on a stock motor w/ bolt-ons

i have made 275whp on stock injectors @ 80% in the past

and its not the long runner length thats hurting your tq

it would be the large plenum and tb instead...
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: low torque numbers for h22!!!!!??? whats to do

Originally Posted by NAH2B
either you dont have H series injectors, or your tuner is lying to you.

they are not maxed out on a stock motor w/ bolt-ons

i have made 275whp on stock injectors @ 80% in the past

and its not the long runner length thats hurting your tq

it would be the large plenum and tb instead...
prob, hopefully the cams i choose will increase it?? how are crowers cause everyone is runnin skunk pro's.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Default Re: low torque numbers for h22!!!!!??? whats to do

and my vtec is set at 5,000g
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxerboy750
prob, hopefully the cams i choose will increase it?? how are crowers cause everyone is runnin skunk pro's.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gixxerboy750
yea there maxed out. Alouta tuners are seein with a set of 440dsm injectors on a stock h22a motor, with bolt on's there making more power, dyno proven. Im just gonna buy a set anyways for the cams i choose to get.

everyone is right about the long intake runners and big piping on the low torque reason.
is that so? Man i guess i missed the memo
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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Cams and compression... larger intake mani and TB on stock cams... If you had stock intake manifold and TB I would imagine you would pick up some torque... cams...
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