I'm very close to getting Eibach Pro-Kits with KYB GR2's all around. But are the Pro-Kits a why bother spring? They only lower 1.4F/1.0R, but the spring rates are the same as the Sportlines with 457F/171-257R. Also, with the Pro-Kits I wouldn't need a camber kit. And I really don't want a slammed car, cause it's a daily driver and I don't wanna dent my header and stuff. So is this a good set-up? Will it improve the handling to a point where I can have some fun on the twisties? I doubt I'll auto-X or road race the car, but I would like to have some fun on some twisties. Anyone out there with this set-up? I found both the shocks and springs for $430 shipped, btw. So should I do it?

 

Then this is probably not the correct forum to ask. The focus here is track and autox, hence the name.

But .. I ran the Pro-Kit/AGX combo for close to 2 years. Good street spring. Lowered enough to look nice but still have enough suspension travel. Will get about 1.4 deg negative up front.

A bit better feel then stock, but still a progressive sport spring with similar ratios front to rear as stock, so it will not change the overall characteristics of the car, just move the envelope up a few ticks. For street, a good thing, IMHO.

All in all, the Pro-Kit is a great choice for street use.


[Modified by SPiFF, 8:19 PM 9/12/2002]

 

True and true. I had the pro kits/illuminas on my 200 civic and it was nice for a street set-up. Not bumpy at all. Im not sure if they changed it, but teh drop was a little uneven, thats my only gripe about them(higher in front).

Sounds it will work for you.


Mike D

 

did you get those rates from eibach? from what i remember, the pro-kit front springs are around 330lb and the rear something like 120-190. the sportlines are stiffer.

that being said, for the street, i think they will work pretty well. body roll will be reduced some, the well-gap will be lessened, and you will still have a worry-free ride.

 

I have Prokits on my 2000 Civic and it made a very noticable difference. I autocross and race with mine plus it's my everyday driver. They are a good cheap way to go to get some added handling without punishing you in everyday driving. I think the ride height is perfect also.

But yes, the only thing I don't like is that the front sits a little higher than the rear but it's not really that noticeable.

 

I got it from an old internet site called b17a.com which dealt entirely with G2's. It seems reasonable, since I know for instance that the spring rates on H&R OE and Sport are the same, the drop is just lower.

I don't see how the backs can sit lower than the front, it lowers 1.4F/1.0R. Plus, on stock suspension with a gutted rear, my back end of the car is so high it's insane.

Also, I already have Azenis, which are in and of themselves an excellent handling mod. But I just don't wanna get this set-up, then wish I'd gone for more extreme down the road.

Any other testimonials out there about how they improve handling? Like I said, I'm more into dragging, but it'd be fun to have some fun on some curves every now and then.

 

Well, then you are incorrect, the spring rates are NOT the same as the Sportlines I guarantee it. The pro-kit rates for a G3 teg are 331front/126-190rear. I have them on my 99GSR and I like them a lot. Again, the rates are not the same as the sportlines. Enjoy

 

i totally ignored the 1990 GS in your sig line and gave you rates for the G3 applicatoin. sorry about that.

i don't think they are dropping the rear less than the front because it already sits lower... they are just giving the car a downward rake towards the front.

 

Uh, actually now I too see that you have a 2nd gen teg, but still the Prokit rates will more than likely be very similar to those I mentiones for the 3rd gen teg. And even still for the 2nd gen, the Prokit rates are NOT the same as the Sportlines. Enjoy

 

I've got Pro-Kits and stock shocks on my Cougar, and I really like the combination. The car is lower and firmer, but the rate doesn't overwhelm the factory shock valving, and the car doesn't bottom out except in extreme high-speed dips. I know nothing about the KYB's, however.

 

What my '90 GS looked like with Eibach Pro-kits and Tokico Illumina (F)/Tokico HP (R). I'm trying to remember exactly how they felt, but I know I did like the setup.

BTW, My front end was lighter than stock as I removed the entire A/C system, removed cruise control, and had a DC 4-2-1 ceramic header....


[Modified by Vracer111, 5:49 PM 9/13/2002]

 

Check out the H&R OE or SPORTS with KYB AGX shocks. $500 shipped if you get the springs from http://www.kingmotorsports.com/ and the shocks from coximports.com or shox.com. Here is a useful post https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=276752.

 

YES THE EIBACH PRO-KITS ARE A "WHY BOTHER" SPRING. Enough said. Either do the suspension right or don't do it at all. You wanted input, you got it.

I don't mean to be negative, but a "Ground Control" type threaded coilover and a properly valved koni adjustable are not that bad on the wallet. Maybe twice the cost, but they will continue to pay dividends in handling. On second thought, never mind, do what you want.