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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Default Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

Any ideas on why this won't insert all the way? It's about an 1/8" to 3/16" from the tranny housing and the car is leaking transmission fluid as a result.

I replaced the original driver's side axle on the car because it was clicking in turns. Purchased one from autozone and gave up the original "bad" axle as a core. Figured there was a problem with the autozone axle so I returned the first one and now the second autozone axle is doing the same thing.

Car is a stock 92 civic lx sedan with a replacement d15b engine. P20 tranny, all engine mounts are in good shape.

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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

looks like a problem with your c-clip on the joint.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kyden
looks like a problem with your c-clip on the joint.
Didn't look out of the ordinary... I'll head to the garage take it off entirely and see if what happens. Back in 10
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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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I took the C-clip off completely and the axle wouldn't insert any more than before. Is there any problem in the transmission that would prevent the axle from being fully inserted?

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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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its probably the wrong axle you have then....

return it and compare it to another new one they have instock....or better yet if they still have your core have them pull that out of the box and measure the length of the stub shaft.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by non-VTEC
its probably the wrong axle you have then....

return it and compare it to another new one they have instock....or better yet if they still have your core have them pull that out of the box and measure the length of the stub shaft.
This is the second one I got from Autozone and it hasn't resolved the problem. Unfortunately I traded the original core in for the first one. Part # is 7083. Driver's side axle w/out abs for 92 Civic.

Is the P20 transmission the stock transmission? I know it has a jdm engine (d15b), however maybe the transmission accepts a different axle???
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Old May 9, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

Just to rule it out, but you do know about "banging" the inner joint into the trans to seat it right?
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Old May 10, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by honda_luvr_2000
Just to rule it out, but you do know about "banging" the inner joint into the trans to seat it right?
Thats only to get past the snap ring, which he removed.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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Pull out the passenger axle and compare it to the new axle, should be the same...
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Old May 15, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Psychoteen101
Pull out the passenger axle and compare it to the new axle, should be the same...
Compared it to the passenger's side it's different, but i think it supposed to be. Here's a pic of some axles.

Left is from a Crx for reference (Looks identical to the EG driver's side). Middle is the driver's side EG axle I'm having problems with. Right is the passenger's side EG axle.

Still have no idea what's causing the issue???

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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:53 AM
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Try sticking the passenger inner CV into the drivers side of the trans. The sleeve is bigger on the one your having problems with. If you can get the passenger axle fully seated into the drivers side like it should be, then most likely you have the wrong axle.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

Originally Posted by Psychoteen101
Try sticking the passenger inner CV into the drivers side of the trans. The sleeve is bigger on the one your having problems with. If you can get the passenger axle fully seated into the drivers side like it should be, then most likely you have the wrong axle.
I figured it out, I had the correct axle the whole time...The axle seal was pushed in roughly 3/4" into the transmission housing slot rather than being flush with the outer edge like it's supposed to. When I tried installing the axle, the seal acted as an obstruction and kept the axle from inserting all the way in. Thanks for the replies
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Old May 21, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

Hmm, for the newbies among us (me included), can you explain exactly what was wrong? I'm not clear on what you're describing as the "axle seal".
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Old May 23, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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prolly have the wrong axle sir
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Old May 26, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

Originally Posted by coffeefiend4
prolly have the wrong axle sir
Sir, you "prolly" have a reading deficiency or failed to read all of the above posts. Axle seal was the problem as stated directly above.

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Old May 26, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DeSchlong
Hmm, for the newbies among us (me included), can you explain exactly what was wrong? I'm not clear on what you're describing as the "axle seal".
There are 2 axle/external transmission seals on both sides of the transmission. One is located where the driver's side axle inserts into to the transmission and the other is on the passenger's side of the tranny. Both of the seals should sit flush along the transmission bell-housing (casing) prior to installing the axles. In my case the driver's side axle seal was not seated correctly causing transmission fluid to leak and the axle from fully inserting into the transmission. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture prior to fixing the issue, but click the link for reference:

#10 is the axle seal aka "Oil seal" as described on the Honda parts diagram...

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...ISSION+HOUSING
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Old May 29, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Ah - gotcha. Thanks for the description. I appreciate you taking the time.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

I HAVE THE SAME DAMN PROBLEM! and i think its the axle seal, how did you go by fixing this? just pull it out?
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

Yes you'll have to remove the old seal and replace it with a new one. See the link in post #16 or try Southbay Honda for parts too.

Or your local dealer. Not sure about after market seals.Cheap seals are one of the spare parts I tend to keep around.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Axle won't fully insert in transmission 92 EG

i fixed it! for people in the future, just pull it out with a flathead, mount it on the axle and with the axle already in the hub, use the hub to force the axle in. should sit flush with no leaks or exposing of the axle as seen on the picture.
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