t2t4 rebuild help
the 5th gear in this tranny grinds and the first gear pops out. i had problems with the reverse in the past and fixed it due to a slider in the trans, and then it started popping out of first when we put it back in (any suggestions)?. anyways, I'm also wanting to know if i can use the 5th gear and the 5th gear syncro out of a p25u transmission (94 accord). any help is appreciated
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^I wouldn't take any of that advice into consideration. I've tried multiple types and weights of oils and nothing works better than the Honda MTF and you only need 2 quarts. If your burning up fifth then you either trans is leaking or a bad clutch hydraulic system.
I doubt anyone will have the answer on whether parts from another trans will work in yours since the T2T4 isn't that common of a choice. You'd probably have to open it up yourself and find out.
I doubt anyone will have the answer on whether parts from another trans will work in yours since the T2T4 isn't that common of a choice. You'd probably have to open it up yourself and find out.
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It probably wont hurt anything but all that extra fluid could put strain on the transmission since it has to work harder making the gears move when submerged in oil much like trying to throw a punch underwater. I do engine brake btw because I don't like investing so much in pads and rotors. I'm telling you, use 2 quarts of Honda MTF and your transmission will never shift smoother.
Back on topic though, OP, your going to have a hard time finding replacement parts for a transmission that was never sold on the US market. Your best bet might be to just replace it with another and keep it around for parts. This time around though try to maintain it a little better since manual transmissions can last for a very long time if they are taken care of.
Back on topic though, OP, your going to have a hard time finding replacement parts for a transmission that was never sold on the US market. Your best bet might be to just replace it with another and keep it around for parts. This time around though try to maintain it a little better since manual transmissions can last for a very long time if they are taken care of.
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LOL youre an idiot. In addition to being a State certified smog technician, Im an ASE Certified L1 Technician. Been doing automotive repair for about 14 years. Specialize in diagnostics and drivability complaints. As well as repairing gross polluters. Can you diag a car by a simple EGA?? Know how to read a pressure transducer graph?? Tell me how long term fuel trim effects vehicle performance?? The diffrence between an 02 and a wideband planar sensor?? Heres an easy one. Do you know exactly what happens when you over fill your engine with oil?? Hint: has little to do with pressure. Look it up on the internet dipshit. Maybe you'll find the answers. You cant see me kid, I **** on you...
the ecu learning would be long term..., and I can set crome to auto tune..,..targeted to Lamba settings which changes the fuel mixture at different levels of driving conditions from crank time and fuel mixture, and being able to adjust for low and high cam settings so you can get vtec right where you want.. and when and at what rpm and to a certain fuel mixture.., if I wanted... and the o2 sensors speak for themselves.., narrow and wide band.., you get a ton more info to feed your ecu, rather than narrow band.. and have more accurate short term and long term fuel trim, by monitoring everything from tps voltage to idle advance degrees, and everyinging in-between..
I have all this **** in my car.., and I have been editing my map for a year. big deal.. what have you done to your map
all those years.., you can go back to the kiddy table with your little buddy kronn-ie boy
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I do have to agree with you., I havn't used it for a while..., it would drop my performance now.., I had to make a point...
from now on, anybody feels like they just have to make a point to me... just pm me so we can leave this mans thread to its intended topic
I bet "deciver" ends up posting something anyway.., always running his insecure mouth, bla,bla,bla,bla
weak... working at a smog station... mr certified.., your certificate came on a roll of toilet paper..., you sound like your about 5' - 1" tall with little mans syndrome..., in anything dumb he might post...., He'll probably say how wrong I am about whatever, and leave it at that..., if I am wrong, tell me the right answer them.... bring it..., little man..,throw your map out on front street and explain it to me.., you might as well be quoting what I have already explained.., there is no other answer stupid... fake *** nobody...... little smoggy boy....,you talk like you had something to do with the whole invention of smog technology.... your like homer simpson working in a nuclear plant... like I said before.., a monkey could be trained to press buttons.. you might as well be a flagger.. ASE certified.. yea right.. I bet he doesn't even have a login to "mitchell1 ondemand5 database.., I'm sure he knows what it is.... maybe if he asks me nice I'll let him use mine...., hey stupid..., go to pre1ude_p0wer, so no posts can be deleted.., so the real truth can be told.. not some stupid **** information that someone could easily get off the internet..., I can't believe your trying to come at me with **** that could easily be found on the net..... use your head..., dumb,dumb... Tell me something you can't find on the net.., something that only someone with experience and knowledge could say.., if you can't ........ your a fake *** liar .. and where is your map.., I want to check it out... I'll gladly post mine.., and pictures of your "smog friendly" car.. because I can't seem to locate any in your garage..., people laughed at you yesterday... go to preludezone and look.., you'll see them, I posted this thread on preludezone before my posts could be deleted.., plenty of comments.., I let them judge for themselves, both of our comments, and posts were seen., and I just joinded their forum, they don't even know me.., but everybody can spot a fake,,,...., you're a joke.. keep posting...., all you do is feed the entertainment fire.. for real
from now on, anybody feels like they just have to make a point to me... just pm me so we can leave this mans thread to its intended topic
I bet "deciver" ends up posting something anyway.., always running his insecure mouth, bla,bla,bla,bla
weak... working at a smog station... mr certified.., your certificate came on a roll of toilet paper..., you sound like your about 5' - 1" tall with little mans syndrome..., in anything dumb he might post...., He'll probably say how wrong I am about whatever, and leave it at that..., if I am wrong, tell me the right answer them.... bring it..., little man..,throw your map out on front street and explain it to me.., you might as well be quoting what I have already explained.., there is no other answer stupid... fake *** nobody...... little smoggy boy....,you talk like you had something to do with the whole invention of smog technology.... your like homer simpson working in a nuclear plant... like I said before.., a monkey could be trained to press buttons.. you might as well be a flagger.. ASE certified.. yea right.. I bet he doesn't even have a login to "mitchell1 ondemand5 database.., I'm sure he knows what it is.... maybe if he asks me nice I'll let him use mine...., hey stupid..., go to pre1ude_p0wer, so no posts can be deleted.., so the real truth can be told.. not some stupid **** information that someone could easily get off the internet..., I can't believe your trying to come at me with **** that could easily be found on the net..... use your head..., dumb,dumb... Tell me something you can't find on the net.., something that only someone with experience and knowledge could say.., if you can't ........ your a fake *** liar .. and where is your map.., I want to check it out... I'll gladly post mine.., and pictures of your "smog friendly" car.. because I can't seem to locate any in your garage..., people laughed at you yesterday... go to preludezone and look.., you'll see them, I posted this thread on preludezone before my posts could be deleted.., plenty of comments.., I let them judge for themselves, both of our comments, and posts were seen., and I just joinded their forum, they don't even know me.., but everybody can spot a fake,,,...., you're a joke.. keep posting...., all you do is feed the entertainment fire.. for real
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hmm interesting.. sorry it took me so long to respond.. this transmission is alot different than usdm for example, last time i had it opened the synchros looked alot different than a accord. i dont know whether to sell it or try to do what i can. i can deal with the 5th gear grind as long as i double clutch but the popping out of first... i think we forgot to put something back last time we had it opened.. anyone have any ideas on this? what would this trans go for if i were going to sell it as is?
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You probably couldn't get anything for it the way it is, that's why I suggested just replacing it and keeping the old one around for parts. Highly doubt anyone out there is interested in a practically ruined T2T4 unless they could use it for parts.
for real man, your talkin basic **** to me..., tell me something I don't know.. all your years of ASE certified experience, and you work at a smog station.., try to make it sound as technical as you want.. you just plug **** in and out.. you probably prefer obd2 also...yea buddy.. your basically talking about closed loop.... using inpjut from various sensors from the intake to the cat, beyond for some obd2 cars..., and using the data to adjust the performance of motor .., there is short term and long term
the ecu learning would be long term..., and I can set crome to auto tune..,..targeted to Lamba settings which changes the fuel mixture at different levels of driving conditions from crank time and fuel mixture, and being able to adjust for low and high cam settings so you can get vtec right where you want.. and when and at what rpm and to a certain fuel mixture.., if I wanted... and the o2 sensors speak for themselves.., narrow and wide band.., you get a ton more info to feed your ecu, rather than narrow band.. and have more accurate short term and long term fuel trim, by monitoring everything from tps voltage to idle advance degrees, and everyinging in-between..
I have all this **** in my car.., and I have been editing my map for a year. big deal.. what have you done to your map
all those years.., you can go back to the kiddy table with your little buddy kronn-ie boy
the ecu learning would be long term..., and I can set crome to auto tune..,..targeted to Lamba settings which changes the fuel mixture at different levels of driving conditions from crank time and fuel mixture, and being able to adjust for low and high cam settings so you can get vtec right where you want.. and when and at what rpm and to a certain fuel mixture.., if I wanted... and the o2 sensors speak for themselves.., narrow and wide band.., you get a ton more info to feed your ecu, rather than narrow band.. and have more accurate short term and long term fuel trim, by monitoring everything from tps voltage to idle advance degrees, and everyinging in-between..
I have all this **** in my car.., and I have been editing my map for a year. big deal.. what have you done to your map
all those years.., you can go back to the kiddy table with your little buddy kronn-ie boy
i have one last question. can anyone tell me why it is popping out of first only on deccelleration , it has to be something simple cause it was working fine before we rebuilt it the first time. maybe forgot to put something back.. thanks
Does it only pop out of first or all gears on decel??
is there a possibility that maybe a mount, or something else might be slightly off possition,or in the way, cause when you said it's only on deceleration in first gear, makes me think that there is just enough torque movement from your motor to make your gear shift arm make contact with something enough to pop it out, inside the engine bay..
also maybe there is not enough room between your master cylinder piston, and push rod.., causing your throw out bearing to be pressed up against the diaphram spring.., causing clutch slippage... and on deceleration, might create the same condition, as if the clutch pedal was being depressed, and possibly enough movement from the torque of the engine to pop it out... just a thought
also maybe there is not enough room between your master cylinder piston, and push rod.., causing your throw out bearing to be pressed up against the diaphram spring.., causing clutch slippage... and on deceleration, might create the same condition, as if the clutch pedal was being depressed, and possibly enough movement from the torque of the engine to pop it out... just a thought
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