Here is my **** box just one of our SFWD cars that we tuned the other night over at ILL GARAGE...

Setup goes like this....

1.8 sleeved gsr bottom end
Arias pistons
Golden eagle rods
BONE STOCK itr head and cams
Victor x
blox 72mm throttle body
1600cc injectors
Stock OEM ignition
BMC Custom t4 bottom mount
BorgWarner S366xl
single bosch 044
on pump E85

just a bunch of Junk

554whp/375tq at 25psi on a dyno dynamics

more in it but ignition started breaking up....next time more boost and better gas

rpms are not correct...


little teaser:


just a little taste of whats to come from us over at ILL GARAGE....

 

Looks sick but I guarantee it doesn't really make 554 HP on a Dyno Dynamics with 25 psi and 7.5k rpm. Sorry.

If the engine RPM is not correct, is it really revving higher than the graph shows?

... and that torque curve,.... hmmm...

 

yes the rpms were off its revving to 8800

 

But the HP is calculated from the RPM the dyno sees so if it would have been reading correct it would have shown even more power. Sorry, but you need to go easy on the correction factor, you're not fooling anyone.

Sick wheels though!

 

What's up Reid, it's Armando.. I met you at the EFI 102 class at Tony's. I actually thought the power was pretty low. Most of the time I see cars on here with a s366xl making like 650+ on 25-26psi.

RPM was calibrated to speed and tach signal was not used. A lot of times when a car is really rowdy, it's hard to get the tach signal to read constant. May just be my pickup. RPM always seems to read a little off regardless. Rev limiter wasn't bounced on that one, so I don't believe we hit 8800rpm on that pull. What you hear at about 8100 rpm is ignition breakup on the top end. After that pull the good old reliable MSD wires popped off the distributor (didn't have them zip tied). Atmospheric correction was used and IAT was hooked up and placed on top of the intake manifold. 8% correction was made to match a mustang dyno, which it most likely is still lower. I had a customer come in with a dynojet sheet and did a couple passes. His h22 did 416whp on the dynojet and did 338whp on my dyno with a 15% correction. Numbers seemed a little low for the setup, but they are just that numbers. I don't believe 555 whp on a dd are bragging rights by any stretch. We're gonna take it to the track and see what the car does and what traps it hits. That should be a better indicator.

 

almost a hundred horsepower difference in 2 dynos at only 440whp? Somethings up with your dyno or theirs

 

DD told me it's 8% lower than a Mustang and 15% lower than a Dynojet. I put the correction factor in there for comparison purposes only and not to fool the customer. We put the correction in on this car, based on what another shop does in our area. I do the ATM correction with iat. Dyno just reads low. Doesn't bother me at all. It's just a number.

 

Or the customers car.

 

ILL Garage are a bunch of sexy dudes.


Armondizzle- try running it off of MPH if the tach signal is being wacky. I've had better luck feeding it closest to the distributor and setting up the wires so that #1 stands alone(less signal interference). Also zip tying the pickup to the wire helps it a bit. The rpm pickup and o2 sensors on these dynos....jeeez they can be a nightmare.

Roller tacho sucks and will rarely be accurate. Its hard to calibrate off of what your datalog or speedo is saying seeing as there are always different variances(wheel size, gearing...etc...etc..). Being off by a hair will only get multiplied as the speed/rpm rises. Giving you the goofiest looking dyno graphs in the universe.

Eric, props on getting it done! I cant wait to see it rip.....its been a long time coming. Im still having a hard time deciding who i think is cuter...you or Justin Bieber.

Tommy, you gotta try my spaghetti. Its delicious.


Love,

Mikey

 

i love taco bell but i love ill garage as well...... mandyyyyyyy !!!!!!!!!! where are my pistonssss !!!!!!! i just got love for u guys and im not gay jajaja

 

In for this thread!

 

My setup is VERY similar to this one, except im running a 84.5mm block, a full race top mount and id1000's. When i put it on the dyno, it said i made 540whp at 26psi..but i think its making more than that. We only have a 1000ft track here but i have gone 8.70@124 on ~22psi, and at 26psi i've trapped 126 before. This is in an Integra that weighs about 2550lb with me in it.

 

you are not having any problems with those 235/60's on the dyno dynamics?q

 

Mikey- thanks for the tips. MPH works well, with datalogging. I kinda got used to the discrepency in rpm/afr reading from working with dynojets in the past. Just use the datalog and do the math in my head to make the correct adjustments at the correct load/rpm levels. Not to knock on dynojets. I just do what the big sasquatch guy from DD advised to do in situations where tach signal is sketchy. I tried the zip tie method and all the other attachments, which don't work well on a car that gives good back massages and turns on light switches during a pass.

Hondakyle- you might be losing the bet with jj. Miata motor should be back together by next week Friday, if everything goes according to plan.

acuraturbo90- pistons should be in on Friday

sweetfwdthunder- we're hoping to get times that are equivalent on the 1320.


We'll see what it does on the 1320 this Sunday

 

I love spaghetti!

 

Word. I'll bring some by.

Yeah, that sasquatch technique has never worked for me. I've always ended up with exaggerated WHP graphs. Crossover should always be at 5252 and with roller tacho it will almost never end up there.

This car is going to tear **** up at the track regardless. Congrats on its completion and i cant wait to see it.

 

hp will always be correct. so if the dyno correction factors are correct it made that much hp.

since the rpm are off, then you can assume the torque numbers are also off. this is why you can graph hp vs speed with no engine rpm.

 

Congrats on the numbers De***io! I'm glad you got all the bugs worked out *crosses fingers*

-brandon-

 

DING DING DING ! ! !

I would bet the torque falling off at the top of the graph is caused by these tires...and you'll never be able to get an accurate # using Drag Radials or Slicks on a DD Dyno.

Get some normal street tires...Falken Azenis have held 750+ HP on my DD unit.

Good stuff guys! Take it to the track!

 

thanks...well we took it to the track today and because we were having ignition problems we pull some of the timing off...and only ran it at 20psi.
the best pass i could get in was a 11.01@ 128mph i had alot of traction issues due to old slicks.

more seat time is needed but not bad

 

Don't hate on my old slicks if you had more than 4 passes you would have broke into the 10s. Car was getting up on the high end.

 

haha yea slicks were not horrible....thanks again for letting me use them....car was def. moving on the high end...would have ran a 10 next pass for sure...but they closed the track down...

 

You guys need to visit the Cedar Falls Raceway and bring them slicks i need some... Great sticky track youll get in alot of runs like 10 if not more a night.. Need more import there..