i got acl race bearing with extra .001 bearings, now i have torqed them down and loosened them 5 times in order to do the torque and strech method from arp.... i had done all the rods, then i got to rod 4 tried to loosen the bolt, and it stripped on me......****k , now is it safe if i torque them all to 50 ft lbs... because that ****ing bolt is not coming out....... help me honda tech...theyp are on eagle rods, (450 plus build)

 

you're only suppose to tq them to the spec that is given, going over that is just stretching the bolt more.

 

I wouldn't torque them down that much, a friend of mine did the same on his all motor b20vtec setup and 1 week later on a 2nd gear pull around 9,200 rpms it threw a fresh eagle rod right through the block on the cylinder that he over-torqued.

 

damn,, any suggestions on how to get the stripped bolt out,,, the head of the bolt is stripped, and no socket will gripp

 

I would try using some vice grips

 

why would you have to do the stretch method there eagle rods with arp bolts that come pre-stretched

 

off the top of my head rod bolts get torque down to 28ftlb and mains to 56ftlb.

 

You torque them to ARP's spec, not some arbitrary amount. If you actually stripped the 12 point bolt head you did something very, very wrong.

I just installed some arp 2000 rod bolts in my volvo motor, spec was 47ft-lb. Torqued them up, loosened, and re-torqued 4 times. I think this is just to make sure everything is mated correctly and to run in the threads in the rod a bit

EDIT: Saw your other post. Look like your boltsa ARP # 200-6207

Per their website the torque spec is 45ft-lb. So you definitely over torqued them. Whether or not 5 extra ft lb would damage them, I don't know...

 

i read on the eagle rod website to torque them to 43ft/lbs

 

extra 5lbs shouldn't hurt. if it was any more than 10 i would say do whatever you had to to get that bolt outta there

 

turned mine to stretch spec offer by arp (forgot stretch spec) but it converted to torqued lbs was 50lbs.... measure the stretch!

 

Does anyone find it odd that Eagle and Pauter call for 50 ft-lbs with motor oil but ARP 200-6207 and 200-6209 call for 55 ft-lbs with moly lube?
http://arpinstructions.com/instructions/200-6207.pdf

 

Over tightening them past the require spec will do two things. over stretch the botl causing it to lose quite a bit of its tinsel strength and will distort the big end of the rod mainly the cap and will eat a bearing in no time and throw that rod pretty quckly. There is a reason why the Eagle manufacture of the rod tells you what torque specs to use. Its not for the hell of it.

IM junk the rod and get a single replacement and do it right. I would also pull the rest and bring to machine shop and have them check they are still round.

 

so do these torque specs apply to all b series motors? I am doing a build myself and I'm hearing all sorts of torque specs.. eagle rods, arp 2000 rod bolts

I would use a cutting tool, and cut the top of the bolt enough so you can get a good grip with a crescent wrench, or use a left handed drill bit.