Del Sol Auto/Manual Conversion
(note: i'm doing this over a few days as i'm pretty short on time, i'll keep adding to it so don't worry)
alright this is my first write-up so bear with me on it
i recently did an automatic to manual conversion on my 95 Del Sol and had one hell of a time
i know, i know, it is a completely retarted swap that shouldn't be bothered with and yes, for all you idiots like me out there, heed the warnings
JUST BUY A MANUAL, DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS SWAP, IT IS A TRUE PAIN IN THE ***
but we all know it's not that simple and there will always be those out there that want to take the high road so i'll try to help ya out
my del sol fell into my hands for $200 so i figured what the hell, if all fails i'll just part it out and turn a profit if anything
but anyways i noticed that there was not much help in this category for any del sol drivers, obd1s, or even any eg's at all so this is directed towards del sol drivers mostly
this is for a 1995 Honda Del Sol S, D15B7 auto, swapping in an S40 5spd(96-00 ex - best dseries trans)
(sorry no pictures now, i'll try to post some when i get time)
parts needed (note: unless specified, equivilent civic part should work)
trans(any dseries hyrdo 5spd is fine, i used the S40)
clutch + clutch bolts
flywheel + flywheel bolts
pilot bearing
release fork (+ boot if you wanna make it look pretty)
slave cylinder
clutch line (highly recommend from a del sol, but i used dx lines, not as neat, but i guess they'll work)
inspection plate + bolts
mounts(i'll specify later, and yes, you need to use specific mounts)
shift linkage (MUST BE FROM DEL SOL, CANNOT USE CIVIC LINKAGE)
stabilizer bar (civics will work, your shifter might sit kinda funny though, recommend del sol bar)
shifter + ****
speed sensor
reverse light switch
pedals (clutch, brake, and accelerator pedal are necessary unless you feel like dying shortly after wasting all your hard efforts on this swap)
manual throttle cable
master cylinder + resevoir (get the bitch pin for your clutch pedal too, random bolts and zip ties will only work if you once again feel like dying or ****ing up your car)
shift boot (do not need whole console, they are the same minus the boot)
ecu
a whole bunch of bolts n **** (not gonna specify, many of the automatic ones will work, just keep your old ones and grab whatever ones you can with the parts you get-junkyard)
a little sheet metal, wire(speaker wire is fine), a few other little odds and ends, some bandaids, alotta patience, and i'd recommend a 30 case for the end of the day ;-)
mounts-
as you all should do before getting started, i went and did lots and lots and lots and lots of research on the subject
upon doing so, i opened pandoras box when it came to what mounts and brackets you do and do not need
my swap is done and yet i'm still trying to figure out what's right and wrong in this department so please don't base your project on this write up, but i will do my best to share my knowledge as simply and thoroughly as i can
you will need that gayass hasport custom mount(upper passenger side)
i paid $80 for mine on ebay. there is a seller who sells these on there, not sure of brand name, but its the same thing. i believe he is "hereiswhatyouneed" or something like that, look it up, you'll figure it out
you will need the lower front mounting bracket (looks similar to the one on the auto, but it's not. looks like a slim piece of metal with a stud at the end, looks way different from all others so you wont get confused)
and you will need the rear mount and bracket(closest to the motor)
oddly, my trans went in using the auto mount and bracket back there, but i'm sure this is wrong as i wound up having to mod my custom mount (take my word for it, you're not suppose to use the rear auto ones). not to mention, basicly every other write up out there says the same thing
you may also need to get new(shorter) bolts from ace or something, depends on the trans
long story short, i've gone through 3 s40s now, and all of them were different
some of them had studs on top for your custom mount(uses nuts instead of bolts, some had slots for the bolts)
IF your trans uses bolts and has no studs, DO NOT USE THE AUTO BOLTS
they are too long and you will crack your case if you put them in too far
now, the order in which you do all this is up to you
this is not the exact order i did everything, but it makes the most sense to me, it's the way i'd do it if i did this again, and it's the easiest for me to remember hah
and like i said, i'm going to keep adding to this and i'll post pictures down the road, so if this sounds retarted, don't worry, i'll elaborate more as necessary and things will make a lot more sense with pictures
start with the pedals, they are the biggest pain in your ***, it's the longest to do, you wont get all your **** dirty with engine grease n that, and you can still simply go back to automatic if you give up by this point
start by removing the lower dash cover under the steering wheel (i believe its 3 or 4 screws)
remove whatever little interior pieces go along with that, you get the idea
you then need to drop the steering column
it should be a couple bolts holding the wheel part, then a couple more supporting the column
either have a buddy hold the wheel or be careful when doing it, dropping heavy parts like your steering column could be disastorous
alright this is my first write-up so bear with me on it
i recently did an automatic to manual conversion on my 95 Del Sol and had one hell of a time
i know, i know, it is a completely retarted swap that shouldn't be bothered with and yes, for all you idiots like me out there, heed the warnings
JUST BUY A MANUAL, DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS SWAP, IT IS A TRUE PAIN IN THE ***
but we all know it's not that simple and there will always be those out there that want to take the high road so i'll try to help ya out
my del sol fell into my hands for $200 so i figured what the hell, if all fails i'll just part it out and turn a profit if anything
but anyways i noticed that there was not much help in this category for any del sol drivers, obd1s, or even any eg's at all so this is directed towards del sol drivers mostly
this is for a 1995 Honda Del Sol S, D15B7 auto, swapping in an S40 5spd(96-00 ex - best dseries trans)
(sorry no pictures now, i'll try to post some when i get time)
parts needed (note: unless specified, equivilent civic part should work)
trans(any dseries hyrdo 5spd is fine, i used the S40)
clutch + clutch bolts
flywheel + flywheel bolts
pilot bearing
release fork (+ boot if you wanna make it look pretty)
slave cylinder
clutch line (highly recommend from a del sol, but i used dx lines, not as neat, but i guess they'll work)
inspection plate + bolts
mounts(i'll specify later, and yes, you need to use specific mounts)
shift linkage (MUST BE FROM DEL SOL, CANNOT USE CIVIC LINKAGE)
stabilizer bar (civics will work, your shifter might sit kinda funny though, recommend del sol bar)
shifter + ****
speed sensor
reverse light switch
pedals (clutch, brake, and accelerator pedal are necessary unless you feel like dying shortly after wasting all your hard efforts on this swap)
manual throttle cable
master cylinder + resevoir (get the bitch pin for your clutch pedal too, random bolts and zip ties will only work if you once again feel like dying or ****ing up your car)
shift boot (do not need whole console, they are the same minus the boot)
ecu
a whole bunch of bolts n **** (not gonna specify, many of the automatic ones will work, just keep your old ones and grab whatever ones you can with the parts you get-junkyard)
a little sheet metal, wire(speaker wire is fine), a few other little odds and ends, some bandaids, alotta patience, and i'd recommend a 30 case for the end of the day ;-)
mounts-
as you all should do before getting started, i went and did lots and lots and lots and lots of research on the subject
upon doing so, i opened pandoras box when it came to what mounts and brackets you do and do not need
my swap is done and yet i'm still trying to figure out what's right and wrong in this department so please don't base your project on this write up, but i will do my best to share my knowledge as simply and thoroughly as i can
you will need that gayass hasport custom mount(upper passenger side)
i paid $80 for mine on ebay. there is a seller who sells these on there, not sure of brand name, but its the same thing. i believe he is "hereiswhatyouneed" or something like that, look it up, you'll figure it out
you will need the lower front mounting bracket (looks similar to the one on the auto, but it's not. looks like a slim piece of metal with a stud at the end, looks way different from all others so you wont get confused)
and you will need the rear mount and bracket(closest to the motor)
oddly, my trans went in using the auto mount and bracket back there, but i'm sure this is wrong as i wound up having to mod my custom mount (take my word for it, you're not suppose to use the rear auto ones). not to mention, basicly every other write up out there says the same thing
you may also need to get new(shorter) bolts from ace or something, depends on the trans
long story short, i've gone through 3 s40s now, and all of them were different
some of them had studs on top for your custom mount(uses nuts instead of bolts, some had slots for the bolts)
IF your trans uses bolts and has no studs, DO NOT USE THE AUTO BOLTS
they are too long and you will crack your case if you put them in too far
now, the order in which you do all this is up to you
this is not the exact order i did everything, but it makes the most sense to me, it's the way i'd do it if i did this again, and it's the easiest for me to remember hah
and like i said, i'm going to keep adding to this and i'll post pictures down the road, so if this sounds retarted, don't worry, i'll elaborate more as necessary and things will make a lot more sense with pictures
start with the pedals, they are the biggest pain in your ***, it's the longest to do, you wont get all your **** dirty with engine grease n that, and you can still simply go back to automatic if you give up by this point
start by removing the lower dash cover under the steering wheel (i believe its 3 or 4 screws)
remove whatever little interior pieces go along with that, you get the idea
you then need to drop the steering column
it should be a couple bolts holding the wheel part, then a couple more supporting the column
either have a buddy hold the wheel or be careful when doing it, dropping heavy parts like your steering column could be disastorous
Last edited by delslow45; Mar 24, 2010 at 05:50 PM.
I don't know why you would say that. I've done a couple of auto to manual swaps on 5th gen civics (which are absolutely identical except for the shift linkage) and they were reasonably painless, especially the second one, only took a full day and we were swapping in another engine, wiring vtec and cut and welded on the manual pocket mount.
I don't know why you would say that. I've done a couple of auto to manual swaps on 5th gen civics (which are absolutely identical except for the shift linkage) and they were reasonably painless, especially the second one, only took a full day and we were swapping in another engine, wiring vtec and cut and welded on the manual pocket mount.
i just feel that for the price, the pain, and gathering the parts and knowledge for doing this for the first time, it's really not worth it
after having done it now though, i'm sure it'd be a whole world simpler the second time around
Yes, been done numerous times.
Depends entirely on what parts cost you and what you're paying for labour. If you buy a parts car and do the work yourself you can do it for next to nothing, if you have to buy everything and pay someone else to do the work its going to be pricey.
Depends entirely on what parts cost you and what you're paying for labour. If you buy a parts car and do the work yourself you can do it for next to nothing, if you have to buy everything and pay someone else to do the work its going to be pricey.
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sorry,
i meant to say can you convert manual to automatic ?? :s:s
i want to buy a hond del sol/crx but cant find an auto so am thinking of buying a cheap manual and getting it converted professionally.
worth it or no ??
i meant to say can you convert manual to automatic ?? :s:s
i want to buy a hond del sol/crx but cant find an auto so am thinking of buying a cheap manual and getting it converted professionally.
worth it or no ??
Can't be done easily at all, requires cutting and welding as well as pulling the entire car apart and replacing the cabin harness with one from an automatic. As far as worth it, you're ruining a perfectly good car, so no. Either wait till you find an automatic or preferably learn to drive stick. Automatic Del Sol is gonna suck however you look at it btw, they're heavy and underpowered and the automatic really doesn't help the situation.
I am in the process of doing a swap mostly to convert it to manual. One problem I'm finding is where the auto shifter come out of is not the right for what's needed for the shift linkage and stabilizer to bolt up to. Is there an easy/right way of doing this? Its a 93 delsol that had an auto d15 and I'm putting in a d16
you know there is already an auto to manual write up for 92-95 civics, which is identical to the del sols. just saying...look in the faq's. that's what i read when i did my auto to manual.
here some info for the reverse light
-this plug is on the upper left corner under the dash
and of course honda-tech user "94EG8" starting circuit wiring the right way
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...48557#34826076
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just to add a tip...if u guys dont wanna run ugly lookn wires all the way to the tranny for the reverse lights u can find those same wires on the 14 pin engine harness plug on the driverside..if yur usdm that is...reason i did this is because i did a wire-tuck harness and didnt wana place any more wires in the bay..its #12 (yellow) and # 13 (green/black) on the plug.. 

and of course honda-tech user "94EG8" starting circuit wiring the right way
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...48557#34826076
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this plug. green and yellow wires to the far left. depin completely (if not use t connect or those splice connectors) or cut/extend and solder these wire, and wire it to the plug under the radio in the 2nd pic.


I am in the process of doing a swap mostly to convert it to manual. One problem I'm finding is where the auto shifter come out of is not the right for what's needed for the shift linkage and stabilizer to bolt up to. Is there an easy/right way of doing this? Its a 93 delsol that had an auto d15 and I'm putting in a d16
I am in the process of doing a swap mostly to convert it to manual. One problem I'm finding is where the auto shifter come out of is not the right for what's needed for the shift linkage and stabilizer to bolt up to. Is there an easy/right way of doing this? Its a 93 delsol that had an auto d15 and I'm putting in a d16

!. Besides that's too much work 4 me anyways cut,drill that plate
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Thanks for the tip on taking the piece out of a manual. I ordered the correct shift linkage from Honda. I knew previously about the civic one not working from research. However I now have a g35 as a daily driver so I'm in the market for a del sol with little to no rust as I let mine sit too long. :/
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