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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 03:03 AM
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i have a b18b and i broke the bolt of the intake cam cap next to the cam gear and i was wondering how bad on the engine would it be to run it with only one in it?
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 04:43 AM
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Not good don't do it.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 05:29 AM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

Originally Posted by mcvtec
Not good don't do it.
I agree, fix it.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 05:58 AM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

Definitely need to fix that.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

****... what would be the best way of doing that cause my friend said drill it out and re-tap it.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

may be wrong but i think you can just swap cam caps, would be alot easier the drilling and tapping.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

no the bolt broke and got stuck in the head not the cam cap.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

oh well, then you only really have one choice
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

ok ill try that but do you think i can drive it before i fix that bolt or no?
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

ttt
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

I've done this before. Ditto for header studs, water pump bolts, etc.
I used an EZ-Out to remove it. It ain't rocket science, but be forwarned, you don't want to break one of those trying to remove the broken bolt - now that's a f**kin' mess. Carefully read the instructions prior to attempting it.

Otherwise, have the car towed to a qualified shop and ask them to do it for you.

Lesson learned: always better to replace fasteners than to risk reusing older ones.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

You could dremel a slot in the broken bolt piece and try to back it out w/ a regular screwdriver (if there's room). Just don't get grit all in your engine.

Try the ez-out first even if you break the ez-out you can dremel it. Also dremelling the broken piece flat and center punching it will help drill accurate for the ez-out.

$75 for a inch-lb torque wrench is a great investment.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

my question for u is did it brake at the cap or in the head? if its jux at the cap, why not remove the other bolt and pull the cap off and with how ever much stud is still sticking out, use a vise grip and turn it back out, but if broken in I'd try an extractor and try to get it out that way. I wouldn't try to drive it with it broken like that tho.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

sometimes since the head of the bolt kinda has a washer built on the head of the bolt it wont snap down in the head far and u can unscrew it from the head with a screwdriver or extractor. goodluck
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

it broke below the head and im going to try the ez-out thing tomorrow and if that doesnt work then im going to be pissed if the bolt broke above the head i would have used vise-grips to get it out but it didnt
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

well the extractor did not work and i tried to drill and tap it and that didnt work either man this sucks, now what?
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

don't reckon a left handed drill bit would pull it out
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

is there enough bolt showing out the head to get a pair of vice gribs to clamp around it screw it out???
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

i doubt a left handed drill bit will get it out and no there isnt enough bolt to grab with vice grips
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

You need some type of a jig to enable you to drill into the center of the hole. Maybe a piece of tube can be fabricated to use with your cam cap. Fear my paint skillzz.

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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

Did the same thing on my b16 head took it to a machine shop 2 hours and $27 later but they left a bunch of metal shavings in my head so beware of that all said and done Id just take it to a shop
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

Originally Posted by strategy400
You need some type of a jig to enable you to drill into the center of the hole. Maybe a piece of tube can be fabricated to use with your cam cap. Fear my paint skillzz.

[IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/strategy400/jig.jpg[IMG]

Awesome paint skillzz.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

If you can get a hold of a welder and you have somewhat expereince, you can weld a screw to the broken stud and unbolt it. Make sure you cover everything around your head except the side that your going to be welding.

Just becareful when your welding, try not to get in contact with your head.

It works wonderfully!

GL
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

Those are probably grade 8 or better bolts. Try using a carbide bit to drill it out.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Default Re: broke the intake cam cap bolt :(

how many ft lb u put, picture will be nice... the EZ out should work.
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