I do agree that out of the box, the ITR is one of the best FWD that was ever produced. However, if you equipped an EG or EK civic hatch with the same features (bigger brakes, suspension, sway bars, various chassis reinforcement, B series motor) wouldn't they be a better track candidate than an ITR? I mean, Honda did make a CTR in the EK chassis which is equipped with all of the features that our DC2-R came with. And the EG platform, well, that is essentially what the DC chassis is based on hence the interchangabiliy of the parts. Can't these civic hatches be made to handle better than an DC2R? The biggest advantage of these hatches compared to the ITR is weight. Regardless how much fat you trim from the R, it will never be as light as a EG/EK hatch. What do you guys think?

 

What, exactly, are you asking? With an unlimited budget, I can make a Yugo faster on a roadcourse than a mildly-modified ITR.

You need to put some constraints around your comparisons. For instance, the 99-00 CTR was not faster around a track than a DC2R, mainly due to the 1.6 instead of the 1.8.

And once you go swapping *all* the ITR parts onto something like the EG, you have a car that isn't all that lighter than the ITR...maybe 150-200 lbs or so. So yes, the EG should be marginally faster around a roadcourse, but you also have a much flexier chassis.

Now, add a rollcage to something and things get different. But then, how far are you willing to take the comparisons once you modify a chassis beyond a "street" car?

 

 

You can modify any car to do almost anything better than a stock car.
Out of the box comparos are the only valid/interesting ones IMO.

 

Yep. Once something is modified, all bets are off.

 

essentually yes but it will take more work to get it that way.if my memory serves me right the r chasis is seem welded for better re enforcment so its not just the r suspension that makes it what it is.

 

oh, it's one of these threads.

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CTR vs DC2R. If the CTR had the b18C 1.8 itr motor it would be better "stock vs stock" hypothetical saying they both came from the factory with that motor.

 

This is stupid. Two cars, nearly identical with the same motor, but one is lighter, and this guy wants to know which would be faster. It's called physics. I think someone's account is either hijacked, or that same someone has been drinking or smoking something potent.

I'm going to give this a few hours voting time. Lock or not?

 

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Why is this here though?

 

I'll give that 1.5 votes out of 1.5 posts. *LOCKED*