11" rear brake upgrade or stock itr??
Hi, i've an eg6 with 242mm stock rotors on the back...
i would like to upgrade, and i've seen Fastbrakes 11" brake upgrade with caliper relocation for the back,
can I use my stock caliper with that?
or it's better an oem itr 262 rotor with itr caliper?
thanks!
Fil
i would like to upgrade, and i've seen Fastbrakes 11" brake upgrade with caliper relocation for the back,
can I use my stock caliper with that?
or it's better an oem itr 262 rotor with itr caliper?
thanks!
Fil
currently, you have the standard rear disc calipers (stamped 7clp13s) w/ 9.4" rear rotors.
yes, the fastbrakes rear 11" rotor kit uses: your current 7clp13s calipers, a fastbrakes adapter and an 11" fastbrakes rear rotor ($250 plus s/h)
http://www.Fastbrakes.com/product_p/...0rear%2011.htm
the itr rear caliper (9clp14s), uses a 10.2" 5-lug rear rotor; the calipers are difficult to source (rare & expensive)
the rsx/ep3 rear calipers (stamped 9clp14s, same for itr rear calipers...but the ep3/rsx caliper bodies are different from the itr) share the same sized pads (part #'s might be different but they interchange) and same sized 10.2" rear rotors as the integra type-r. the ep3/rsx rear calipers easier & cheaper to find in the yards. you can find the 10.2" rotor in 4X100 from 1st gen ep3's brand new from any parts dealer (or use a 2nd gen ep3 or rsx and re-drill them to 4X100). this swap requires you to put the left caliper on the right & the right caliper on the left; must be bled with the caliper bodies off the car since the bleeders are pointing in the wrong direction). the ep3/rsx/itr rear calipers use a bigger pad than the satndard 7clp13s rear disc calipers
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/ep3-dc5-10-2-rear-disc-brake-upgrade-94-01-integras-1110005/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/its-done-10-3%22-ep3-rear-disc-conversion-ek-mc-ek-info-1090780/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-put-x-brakes-your-96-00-ek-civic-revised-upgrade-chart-1513752/
Originally Posted by BrakeExpert,

what are you doing for front brakes?
my .02, an 11" rear set-up will create heavy rear-bias unless you have upgraded the brakes in the front
http://www.Fastbrakes.com/product_p/...0rear%2011.htm
the itr rear caliper (9clp14s), uses a 10.2" 5-lug rear rotor; the calipers are difficult to source (rare & expensive)
the rsx/ep3 rear calipers (stamped 9clp14s, same for itr rear calipers...but the ep3/rsx caliper bodies are different from the itr) share the same sized pads (part #'s might be different but they interchange) and same sized 10.2" rear rotors as the integra type-r. the ep3/rsx rear calipers easier & cheaper to find in the yards. you can find the 10.2" rotor in 4X100 from 1st gen ep3's brand new from any parts dealer (or use a 2nd gen ep3 or rsx and re-drill them to 4X100). this swap requires you to put the left caliper on the right & the right caliper on the left; must be bled with the caliper bodies off the car since the bleeders are pointing in the wrong direction). the ep3/rsx/itr rear calipers use a bigger pad than the satndard 7clp13s rear disc calipers
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/ep3-dc5-10-2-rear-disc-brake-upgrade-94-01-integras-1110005/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/its-done-10-3%22-ep3-rear-disc-conversion-ek-mc-ek-info-1090780/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-put-x-brakes-your-96-00-ek-civic-revised-upgrade-chart-1513752/
Originally Posted by BrakeExpert,

what are you doing for front brakes?
my .02, an 11" rear set-up will create heavy rear-bias unless you have upgraded the brakes in the front
thanks for the great infos!!
for the front i think i'll buy spoon calipers and fastbrakes 4x100 1" rotors (if i don't find nothing better...)
so for the rear, its better itr calipers and redrilled rotors or stock calipers with 11" fastbrakes?
for the front i think i'll buy spoon calipers and fastbrakes 4x100 1" rotors (if i don't find nothing better...)
so for the rear, its better itr calipers and redrilled rotors or stock calipers with 11" fastbrakes?
Leave the stock calipers and discs alone. If you want to increase the rear brake force just remove the proportioning valve from the system. Putting bigger brakes in the rear its only going to increase the weight and moment of inertia.
i'm sorry but the fastbrakes 11" rear kit has got to be the most useless brake upgrade you can do. increasing rotor size by itself does nothing except possibly make braking distance increase. you are still using the same calipers and pads, which means the force applied to the rotor is exactly the same as with the smaller rotor.
to put things into an exaggerated analogy, imagine holding up your hand and having someone throw a tennis ball at it at 10mph. the force applied from your hand to the ball would stop it without moving your hand hardly at all. now have someone throw a bowling ball at your hand at 10mph. chances are your hand is gonna move quite a bit.
without increasing the opposing force, your not gonna accomplish anything. unless you are doing this only for aesthetic purposes, i'd recommend against it.
when using the itr setup, you are not only increasing rotor size but you also increase caliper size and pad size. increased caliper size means more fluid movement which transfers into more braking force. plus the increased pad size means more surface area being covered on the rotor, which causes more friction, therefore decreasing movement.
however with increased friction you will get more heat which can lead to brake fade so upgrading pads and brake fluid will help loads. and lastly a car will not stop past the grip of your tires. so you can have the best brakes in the world but if you've got sh*tty tires, they will do you no good at all.
all that being said, i hope your doing this for looks, lol.
to put things into an exaggerated analogy, imagine holding up your hand and having someone throw a tennis ball at it at 10mph. the force applied from your hand to the ball would stop it without moving your hand hardly at all. now have someone throw a bowling ball at your hand at 10mph. chances are your hand is gonna move quite a bit.
without increasing the opposing force, your not gonna accomplish anything. unless you are doing this only for aesthetic purposes, i'd recommend against it.
when using the itr setup, you are not only increasing rotor size but you also increase caliper size and pad size. increased caliper size means more fluid movement which transfers into more braking force. plus the increased pad size means more surface area being covered on the rotor, which causes more friction, therefore decreasing movement.
however with increased friction you will get more heat which can lead to brake fade so upgrading pads and brake fluid will help loads. and lastly a car will not stop past the grip of your tires. so you can have the best brakes in the world but if you've got sh*tty tires, they will do you no good at all.
all that being said, i hope your doing this for looks, lol.
ok, so itr rear brake system= rsx/ep3 rear brake system, am I right?
where can I find some 4x100 10.2" rear rotors?
i don't like redrilled rotors...
where can I find some 4x100 10.2" rear rotors?
i don't like redrilled rotors...
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i'm sorry but the fastbrakes 11" rear kit has got to be the most useless brake upgrade you can do. increasing rotor size by itself does nothing except possibly make braking distance increase. you are still using the same calipers and pads, which means the force applied to the rotor is exactly the same as with the smaller rotor.
to put things into an exaggerated analogy, imagine holding up your hand and having someone throw a tennis ball at it at 10mph. the force applied from your hand to the ball would stop it without moving your hand hardly at all. now have someone throw a bowling ball at your hand at 10mph. chances are your hand is gonna move quite a bit.
without increasing the opposing force, your not gonna accomplish anything. unless you are doing this only for aesthetic purposes, i'd recommend against it.
when using the itr setup, you are not only increasing rotor size but you also increase caliper size and pad size. increased caliper size means more fluid movement which transfers into more braking force. plus the increased pad size means more surface area being covered on the rotor, which causes more friction, therefore decreasing movement.
however with increased friction you will get more heat which can lead to brake fade so upgrading pads and brake fluid will help loads. and lastly a car will not stop past the grip of your tires. so you can have the best brakes in the world but if you've got sh*tty tires, they will do you no good at all.
all that being said, i hope your doing this for looks, lol.
to put things into an exaggerated analogy, imagine holding up your hand and having someone throw a tennis ball at it at 10mph. the force applied from your hand to the ball would stop it without moving your hand hardly at all. now have someone throw a bowling ball at your hand at 10mph. chances are your hand is gonna move quite a bit.
without increasing the opposing force, your not gonna accomplish anything. unless you are doing this only for aesthetic purposes, i'd recommend against it.
when using the itr setup, you are not only increasing rotor size but you also increase caliper size and pad size. increased caliper size means more fluid movement which transfers into more braking force. plus the increased pad size means more surface area being covered on the rotor, which causes more friction, therefore decreasing movement.
however with increased friction you will get more heat which can lead to brake fade so upgrading pads and brake fluid will help loads. and lastly a car will not stop past the grip of your tires. so you can have the best brakes in the world but if you've got sh*tty tires, they will do you no good at all.
all that being said, i hope your doing this for looks, lol.
i dont belive this cause i think more away you brake of the axis, more is the work done by your pads cause theyll make more friction each turn. may be shall be beter to upgrade to better rotors and pads with that kind of kit cause they will heat up more
The rear rotors for a 10.2 inch rotor need to be from a 03 civic si rear rotor (ebc, hawk, advance ect) and as for the proper fitting caliper you need to use the 01 integra type r (aka ITR) rear caliper and bracket for the correct placement of line and bleeder valve. The calipers are available still at rockauto for about 45$ each. As for brake pads, you need to use the 04-08 tsx brake pads for the front to have proper clearance and not over-hang the rotors. The rear pads just use a 01 ITR pad and do not have any fitment issues.
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