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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Whats up guys,

I stealth installed my Viper 5002 alarm a month and half ago or so. Everything is working great with the alarm except my drivers door won't lock. I think it is the key cylinder but wanted to make sure that will cause it before I order it, its only 20 bucks. When I lock/arm the alarm the passenger door will lock but the drivers won't, although it tries. I also cannot lock the drivers door with my key because the key cylinder is fudged up looking(from a past attempted break-in). I assume the cylinder is binding up and not letting the alarm lock the door.

If my theory is correct I will order the key cylinder ASAP.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Will the power door lock switch or the manual switch lock the drivers door?
If so, will it unlock with the alarm?

The key switch should not effect the power door lock, no matter how badly it is messed up unless it is binding in the unlock position maybe.

Sounds more like the actuator itself. 94
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Will the power door lock switch or the manual switch lock the drivers door?
If so, will it unlock with the alarm?

The key switch should not effect the power door lock, no matter how badly it is messed up unless it is binding in the unlock position maybe.

Sounds more like the actuator itself. 94
fcm, I went out and tried the switch on the inside of the door panel. It will unlock and lock the passenger side but will not lock the drivers door. I tried it several times and each time it locked and unlocked the passenger but the drivers stayed unlocked regardless.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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How about the manual "switch"?94
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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I actually have the rod for the manual switch unhooked. The plastic piece on the bottom of the manual switch that the rod goes through had broken. I haven't replaced it. I could however pull the door panel off and move the rod myself by hand.

EDIT: I also have Jimmy Jammers installed on both doors, I am sure it doesn't matter, just stating.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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Yea, pull the panel and check, you need to find out if the problem is binding or if it is the actuator, at this point it sounds like the actuator but can't be sure untill we see if it's not just binding. 94
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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fcm, I just got a chance to pull the drivers door panel off, I tried using my hand to move the manual switch rod to lock the doors and it worked fine. Locked it with the manual rod several times to make sure it was consistent in working and it locked the door every time. So, looks like its the actuator then correct?

Is there anyway to check the actuator? Is the actuator the electrical box thingy ma jig that's in the door that's held in by a bracket? If so, I guess the part of the actuator that locks/unlocks the passenger door is ok but the drivers side part is fudged up?

I will look it up on HondaPartsUnlimited and Majestic to see what they run.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 06:42 AM
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Is this the actuator circled in red in the picture below? The description says "LOCK ASSY., L. FR. POWER DOOR".
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Yes, that is it. 94
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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Yes, that is it. 94
Ok cool, $78.30 plus shipping, OUCH..that sucks. It is what it is I guess? Any reason these go bad in particular? Or is it just the fact that its a 17 year old car? Any reason why it breaks on the drivers side but still works on the passenger?
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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It's just because it's a 17 year old car, stuff wears out, things in drivers door will go long before other doors because it is used much more often. 94
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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It's just because it's a 17 year old car, stuff wears out, things in drivers door will go long before other doors because it is used much more often. 94
Gotcha, thanks a lot for the help man. Very much appreciated. I will get it on order so I can get it ASAP, going somewhere and the drivers door not being locked is spooking me, even though the alarm will still trip if the door is opened I just don't like it.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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You could install an aftermarket actuator... http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories but you would loose central locking, or go with a used one... http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=OEM...acat=0&bkBtn=1 94
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Thanks man, I will look into that.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 01:58 AM
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I suggest getting 4 door rear handles, and switching them with your front ones since you have keyless entry, will get rid of any thieves trying to use the keyhole.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jangles
I suggest getting 4 door rear handles, and switching them with your front ones since you have keyless entry, will get rid of any thieves trying to use the keyhole.
You know, I have never thought about that. That sounds like a very good idea. With those handles on there there would be no key hole for them to molest to get into my car, and then when they tried to pry between the door and the handle to get to the lock rod, my jimmy jammer is in place to stop them. Only thing that would suck is if I get my hands on a set of those handles, I will have to get them painted Milano red. Buddy of mine probably do it for me cheap though. Thanks for the tip man.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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You do know the crook will then just bust the window, or you will have to the day your keyless or remote stops working.

Locking your doors is not going to keep a crook out of the car, unless of coarse the crook is worried about doing damage to your car, and we know there are very few of them.

Shaved key holes are only a problem for the owner of the car.

If you do shave them, install a mechanical release, [cable] just in case.94
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Very good point also, I actually thought about that later after I posted my last reply. He will just bust the window..at least my audio sensor is there to start the alarm blaring early on.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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Heres an idea. Just replace the two handles in the front doors but leave your trunk key hole there. So if you have problems you can just go through the trunk to get inside.
As for the locking problem why don't you get the after market lock for like 10 bucks on ebay and install them. I had to replace all four doors lock because they all went out. Cheap fix it's better and easier then buying the factory one.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wes7side5o
Heres an idea. Just replace the two handles in the front doors but leave your trunk key hole there. So if you have problems you can just go through the trunk to get inside.
As for the locking problem why don't you get the after market lock for like 10 bucks on ebay and install them. I had to replace all four doors lock because they all went out. Cheap fix it's better and easier then buying the factory one.
Yeah I started looking at aftermarket units and man there way cheaper than the Honda one. Going that route for sure as money is tight.
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