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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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Kinda new guys, just hoping you guys could help me out!!!

Ok, so this is my situation;
I have a 1996 Honda Civic dx with a fully built b16 turbo! when I got the car, it came with some magnecor wires, but recently I acquired some Vision motorworks wires to replace my old wired cuz they were kinda worn out... I dont know if its my spark plugs, or my wires, but when I hit like 7k, it started sputtering today. First thing I did was check the spark plugs; sure enough the first one from left to right, the probe was melted. I changed it and it seemed to work fine now.

My main question is (I wanna upgrade wires and plugs) what spark plug wires do I get for a turbo application?

I was looking into some Nology Cool wires, and maybe some NGK cold plugs? any help or links to specific products that work good? All help appreciated! Thanks guys!

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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also on a side note, if you have any stuff for sale i.e. wires etc email me directly at
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Thanks again H-T!
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:22 AM
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if the probe was melted its possible the wrong heat range was used or the tune is off. go with some ngk bkr7e's. around were Im at napa is the only one who carries them. don't use any other plug or let the guy who works there talk you into some irradium crap plug. only the ngk bkr7e is what I run.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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if the probe was melted its possible the wrong heat range was used or the tune is off. go with some ngk bkr7e's. around were Im at napa is the only one who carries them. don't use any other plug or let the guy who works there talk you into some irradium crap plug. only the ngk bkr7e is what I run.
awesome! thanks ill go get those asap!!! any particular gap that I should do special for forced induction? cuz I would always get regular ngk-r pre-gapped and never gapped them but a friend of mine told me that turbo should have a special gap, a tighter gap than stock...

on another note, anybody have any good spark plug wires in mind?
or the difference between nology hot and cool wires? (Im thinking about going with the cool wires soon) unless somebody talks me out of it.. help!
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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if the probe was melted its possible the wrong heat range was used or the tune is off. go with some ngk bkr7e's. around were Im at napa is the only one who carries them. don't use any other plug or let the guy who works there talk you into some irradium crap plug. only the ngk bkr7e is what I run.
just called napa and they were the only one's to have it in stock locally... But they told me they are for only "audi, aston martin, volvo" and a few other makes... obviously not for civic, should that matter? or do I get them anyway and just double check the gap to be for turbo? (friend suggested 23-26 gap)
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/ngk-bkr7e-equivalent-2632452/
just found this thread, and found a part number, now Im gonna stop by and see what they tell me! thanks everyone!

Now I just need help with wires!!! suggestions!
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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yep get the bkr7e's as for plug wires I dont run anything special. just make sure they are in good condition and not some singapore crap. as for the gap .028" works good for turbo cars. also make sure the points on your dizzy cap are good, you can clean them with a sharp knife and take a little sand paper to your rotor to freshen it up.

also make sure you have quite a few good engine grounds and you shouldn't have any issues besides possibly your tune. it wouldn't be a bad idea to take it to a reputable tuner to have them check everything on your ecu to make sure your timing isn't way off or your running lean. alot cheaper to fix the problem now then to blow the motor (trust me Iv been there)
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Just ordered 8 new plugs at Napa, should be here tomorrow! i have some vision spark plug wires, they were accordingly good, and seem like good quality products, but Im still gonna get something better... so as for now im looking into the Nology cool wires! thanks for the help man! I really appreciate it!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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fa show. just take care of your car and it will treat you well.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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definitely will I love this car and I want to have it for many years to come, so I wanna fix every little detail and glitch it has!

Still need advice on wires!!! Might just jump on Nology cool wires tonight!
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Well eff it! Just placed my order for some cool wires at Nology
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i agree on the bkr7e's. gapped to .20, used to have mine set at .28 on my b16 but started breaking up top at the track on about 12 lbs.
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i agree on the bkr7e's. gapped to .20, used to have mine set at .28 on my b16 but started breaking up top at the track on about 12 lbs.
Mine is at 17psi... So then should I go with a smaller gap similar to yours?..
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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ya, anything over 15 lbs i wouldnt go any more than .2.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Cool then .20 it is I really appreciate all your help guys!!! Thanks!!
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iv never heard of any one running that small of a gap. I run 17lbs on my ls-t and its at .032" with no issues what so ever. its even seen 20lbs. I would do .025" at the smallest.
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check this:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/spark-plug-gap-877602/
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great help! read through some of the thread! thanks!!! my friend who had a fully built single cam had it at .28 he recommended between .26-.30 so im gonna go with .26 to start off... plenty of time for opinions! still haven't gotten my wires in, they will be shipped out from Nology tomorrow, so I still wanna get some feedback! thanks guys!
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I am very happy with my MSD wiring although I liked the Sparco set I had before better, [will not fit the MSD cap] and have not been able to find a set of Sparcos that will fit the MSD cap, in fact I think Sparco no longer makes spark plug wiring.

I have a buddy that will not use anything but Magnecor R100... http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/main.htm

My 94LS is not a turbo, I run a 75 shot Zex system. 94
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Well I already ordered the nology wires... I also have a k20z3 ep3 on 10lbs from the jrsc... I'm probably gonna adjust the gap carefully on those too being that they are iridium plugs.. I know I can do it with a feeler gauge
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My old wires were magnecor... Didn't have a problem with them just wanted new ones cuz those were kinda worn
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the iridiums seem to work pretty good. gonna run those are my car this year.
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I heard iridium sucks for turbo... Silver is the beat conductor... Iridium just lasts longer... I only got iridium for my ep3 cuz it's necessary to use iridium on k20's apparently...I already got the ngk's recommended above and some nology cool wires are in the mail.. Let me try that out and I will update soon... Thanks again guys!
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you heard wrong. iridium works well just gotta be careful not to touch the tip.
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all I know is that every tuner Iv talked to around here uses ngk bkr7e's for just about every turbo car with a gap from .026-.032max. shouldn't be to complex. if your still missing at .026 gap you might need some new ignition components.
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