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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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Default So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

I wanna do the conversion to a 99-00. Product JDM in Queens,NY has it for $580 installed. It's a honda civic coupe EX btw.

-Black housing lights
-Fenders
-hood
-Grille
-Bumper
-lip

they had a post on craigslist but its not up anymore.

I posted this in a JDM thread on another forum and they told me to go the OEM route but its about double the cost. Double the cost = 1/3 of what I spent on the car so it's really not worth it to me.

So im looking on some feedback on going the non-OEM route. What should I tell the shop if I want it done right ? I was searching on google and saw that they have to cut some holes in the bumper and something about radiator.

To lazy to look right now, im about to hit the sack. Any help is appreciated.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam itz Lou
I wanna do the conversion to a 99-00. Product JDM in Queens,NY has it for $580 installed. It's a honda civic coupe EX btw.

-Black housing lights
-Fenders
-hood
-Grille
-Bumper
-lip

they had a post on craigslist but its not up anymore.

I posted this in a JDM thread on another forum and they told me to go the OEM route but its about double the cost. Double the cost = 1/3 of what I spent on the car so it's really not worth it to me.

So im looking on some feedback on going the non-OEM route. What should I tell the shop if I want it done right ? I was searching on google and saw that they have to cut some holes in the bumper and something about radiator.

To lazy to look right now, im about to hit the sack. Any help is appreciated.
everything is just straight bolt up EXCEPT the radiator SUPPORT TABS which will be too wide for the 99-2000 front bumper (NOT radiator) and the tabs on the bumper on either side of the grille which would normally line straight up on the radiator support tabs. The tab will have to be trimmed
down and then holes will be drilled in the tabs to line up with the preexisting holes (on either side of the grille) on the bumper. There are TONSSSS of how-to's and DIY's on google, just do a little bit of research.

My jaw honestly DROPPED when I saw the price that they were giving you. I got my whole conversion for about $250 from a place called Certifit (www.Certifit.com). Great quality parts and it fit like a glove
DIY and you won't have to worry about "labor charges" that get thrown into the mix. Go ahead, get your hands dirty
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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yea i agree.. its easier to DIY, i got my front end conversion form some guy on craigslist for $60 w/o the headlights, jus took me one afternoon and it bolted right up. all you have to do is line up the radiator support holes for the bumper and everything else is jus a piece of cake. save the money! dyi
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

I did mine myself the only oem part was the new hood, I have never seen a decent non oe hood, But everything lined up fine, And It looks awesome to. All the parts were brand new and it cost me just a hair under $375.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

thats a decent deal if 1. it lines up, and 2. they paint it to match. otherwise tell them to suck a lemon.

edit:

It's in Queens. It's probably OEM parts, because I probably stole em of someone's Si.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

I don't mind paying the 580 installed but really just wondering if it's a big deal if it's not OEM ?

It's my first car and I don't know much about cars so I don't wanna do it myself.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

if you don't want the hassle of doing it yourself, and if you don't mind spending the extra $$ to have it done for you, then so be it..

but it's not like you need to know about cars to do this job!! if you know how to use a screwdriver, a socket wrench, can drill 2 holes, and can cut 4 straightish lines with a dremel (pretty simple), then you can do this install..
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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Takes 20 min with a extra set of hands,
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

How big of a deal is it if the parts aren't oem ?

I also need a si wing put on and mirrors so I'll see if they'll do it all in 1 shot for the same price.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

Originally Posted by Dam itz Lou
How big of a deal is it if the parts aren't oem ?
Serious? If you have to ask, you shouldn't be driving a Honda. Why do you think people buy these cars....quality.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

Originally Posted by Dam itz Lou
How big of a deal is it if the parts aren't oem ?

I also need a si wing put on and mirrors so I'll see if they'll do it all in 1 shot for the same price.
dude have you ever used a screwdriver?? maybe you should get them to check your dipstick, change your stock air filter, and pump your gas for you while they're at it..
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

thats a good deal but they also make black housing headlights for the 96-98 front end so a conversion isnt necessary if thats what you are looking for. but if you just want the front end that seems like a really good deal
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

seems like a bad deal to me smh my boy was gettin the whole front end with a carbon fiber hood for 450 the cf hood had some scratchess but some sanding and clear will make it new....

bro do it ur self and buy the parts some where else thats too much it's 5 bolts on the fenders 3 under the hood 1 where sideskirt is and 1 around where the mirror is

DO IT UR SELF!! U WONT DAMAGE ANYTHING any if u just like wasting money have them do it for you
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

Are they paint matching the parts to your car? if not, its a rip off. i could probably get the same deal paint matched to my car and installed at that price.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

Originally Posted by Dam itz Lou
How big of a deal is it if the parts aren't oem ?
The main problem is that the quality is variable. I've had replacement parts that looked and fit 99% as well as the OEM piece does...and I've had replacement parts that were completely the wrong size and didn't fit at all.

The thing about OEM parts is you are guaranteed that it will be perfect. If you don't care about perfection, go for a replica.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

Originally Posted by hushypushy
The main problem is that the quality is variable. I've had replacement parts that looked and fit 99% as well as the OEM piece does...and I've had replacement parts that were completely the wrong size and didn't fit at all.

The thing about OEM parts is you are guaranteed that it will be perfect. If you don't care about perfection, go for a replica.
Thank you for answering my question. It doesn't have to perfect but just lined up nice and barely noticeable. I just wanted to know if its worth DOUBLE the price to go with the OEM parts. I didn't think so but I will do it if it's WORTH it. Thanks for your input.

Boxeo - I like the 99-00 nose better especially with the fog lights.

Anon - No they arent paint matching it but I was planning on painting the car anyway.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

Here's the link to the stuff...

http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/pts/1605093359.html
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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Default Re: So im thinking about doing the 99-00 front end conversion...

It's hard to tell from the pics, since the pieces aren't lined up. That lip looks like crap though.

The price is pretty high though...there's a shop on my local CL right now selling the same thing, with OEM parts, for $400.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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JDMcarboy.com ?

I wish I could find that deal in NY.

Im gonna go around some used auto parts spots to see how much they'll charge.
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