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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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It's a non-vtec yet. I'm planning to put B20Z and Type R tranny into 97 EK hatch.

I know I still have a lot to learn. Does anybody have the same project out there? Or does anybody have a write up? Any info would be appreciated.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Its like any other B series swap.

Find yourself the b20z, Change the intake manifold incase it comes with the giraffe intake. And install the transmission.

A buddie has that setup and he loves it ( he has a lsd b16 transmission, similar ).

find an obd1 ecu, get it chipped and tuned and your golden.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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I did made a decent build thread of a 96 hatch with B20Z a couple years ago....i love that swap!!!

https://honda-tech.com/forums/appearance-build-threads-122/my-new-ek-project-just-picked-up-2221359/

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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i have it in my hb eg . jdm itr lsd b20 and love it.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

Originally Posted by DVDr
Its like any other B series swap.

Find yourself the b20z, Change the intake manifold incase it comes with the giraffe intake. And install the transmission.

A buddie has that setup and he loves it ( he has a lsd b16 transmission, similar ).

find an obd1 ecu, get it chipped and tuned and your golden.
Is it really necessary for me to find a OBD1 ECU? Coz right now, I have OBD2A P75. I just purchased it today. I should be good to go right?
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

You just can't tune the OBDII ECU's so it will likely not run your B20 correctly at all. The P75 is an integra LS so it will get you running but not be optimal.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

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I did made a decent build thread of a 96 hatch with B20Z a couple years ago....i love that swap!!!

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2221359

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Thanks man. I just wondering about my ECU and do I need to changed my harness. My car is a 97 so that's an OBD2A right? Then I'm using a OBD2A P75 ECU. So I'm good to go right?
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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You just can't tune the OBDII ECU's so it will likely not run your B20 correctly at all. The P75 is an integra LS so it will get you running but not be optimal.
Are you serious? I was told that OBD2A P75 should be good to go. I just purchased one today.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DVDr
Its like any other B series swap.

Find yourself the b20z, Change the intake manifold incase it comes with the giraffe intake.
The high compression B20Z or late model jdm still called the B20B ALL have the low style intake manifold, no need to change it!

As far as ecu's go you have a few options.....

if you want to keep running OBDII, use a real crv ecu

If jumping back to OBDI as i did, i tried two different ecu's
- 1995 intgra ls ecu 5sp P75- worked ok but didn't like to idle as smooth
- 1993 integra ls 5sp PR4- worked awesome!!!
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

Originally Posted by Deetz
The high compression B20Z or late model jdm still called the B20B ALL have the low style intake manifold, no need to change it!

As far as ecu's go you have a few options.....

if you want to keep running OBDII, use a real crv ecu

If jumping back to OBDI as i did, i tried two different ecu's
- 1995 intgra ls ecu 5sp P75- worked ok but didn't like to idle as smooth
- 1993 integra ls 5sp PR4- worked awesome!!!
I got the CRV ECU but its an automatic though. I just purchased a 97 LS 5sp P75 ECU. Well see what happen. If I don't like it, I'll convert to OBDI and take your advise. I really appreciate some info man.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

Guys,

What headers should I use?
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaPnoi_415
Guys,

What headers should I use?
Any header will work, If you can get a ITR replica 4-1 they seem to work good on the 2.0 litres.

Also if you alrady got a B18b OBD2a ecu , get a VAFC or SAFC , and get it tuned ( you will add a little fuel up top .) I found the integra ecu runs alean the last few hundred RPM with the b20 .
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

Originally Posted by DVDr
Any header will work, If you can get a ITR replica 4-1 they seem to work good on the 2.0 litres.

Also if you alrady got a B18b OBD2a ecu , get a VAFC or SAFC , and get it tuned ( you will add a little fuel up top .) I found the integra ecu runs alean the last few hundred RPM with the b20 .
Thanks for the info man. I really appreciate it coz this is my very first project.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

If you're like me you will love the gearing of the ITR tranny.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

i sure do love my itr tranny
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Default Re: 97 EK hatch, B20Z, Type R tranny

Another question...

So if I get the replica Type R header, will I have problem fitting it? Coz I'm keeping the AC in my car.
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