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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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I've been having problems with my spark plug wires lately, having to mess around with the rubber boots and whatnot, because they weren't staying put. anyway, when I finally thought I had that problem fixed, one of the spark plugs started fouling and I found that one of the plug wells had some oil inside it. I cleaned it out and installed a non-fouler but the plug wire is now sticking out an inch or so.

what am I supposed to do with this? should I cut the plastic tube on the end of the wire shorter so it goes fits properly?

also, I test drove it and it ran fine for about 20 minutes, but then because of the plug wire/boot sticking out, it started to loosen from the plug and started running erratically.
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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what is a non fouler?
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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what is a non fouler?
one side screws onto the end of a spark plug and the other end screws into the head, preventing oil from getting on and "fouling" the plug
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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one side screws onto the end of a spark plug and the other end screws into the head, preventing oil from getting on and "fouling" the plug
Why not just fix the leak of oil into the spark plug chamber?
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Just go get new o-rings for the valve cover.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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He probably also need the o-rings under the cam holders (spark plug holes go through these too). The ones on my wagon came out like brittle plastic.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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The only thing non-foulers are good for is faking your OBD2 emissions test. Testpipe + nonfouler = $2.99 passed state inspection!

Just throw a new valvecover gasket set on it and call it a day. And from the sounds of it, new wires and plugs too. Best $50 you'll ever spend
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HeikDiesel
Why not just fix the leak of oil into the spark plug chamber?
oh right, I never thought of that. I was just planning on letting the oil stay there forever.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:08 AM
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oh right, I never thought of that. I was just planning on letting the oil stay there forever.
if you are trying to be sarcastic I would suggest you use rational thinking
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Whoa!
Are you rational thinkers saying there are o-rings under the camholder[s] in addition to those on the valve cover? No wonder changing the ones on the cover never does anything for me! Anyone have a picture of the camholder ones?
Tx!
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HeikDiesel
if you are trying to be sarcastic I would suggest you use rational thinking
you didn't even know what non-foulers were. quit posting.


Originally Posted by uccjxe
Whoa!
Are you rational thinkers saying there are o-rings under the camholder[s] in addition to those on the valve cover? No wonder changing the ones on the cover never does anything for me! Anyone have a picture of the camholder ones?
Tx!
agreed. or a tech guide link.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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this is the closest thing i could find:

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...lug+tube+seals
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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D'oh! There's a good post with pics in the Accord FAQ sticky. Been meaning to check out the stickies . . .
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Yep - that's the post in the sticky; thanks LandHard.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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A shop manual for your Accord would be the first thing to look for if you want to fix your own car. Saves having to post questions and waiting for answers when you can look stuff up yourself.

Google "Spoon tuner HELMS Factory Service Manuals"
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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you didn't even know what non-foulers were. quit posting.
So because you use a band aide to fix a gunshot wound makes me a moron? stfu noob
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HeikDiesel
So because you use a band aide to fix a gunshot wound makes me a moron? stfu noob
go away.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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Congratulations, LandHard! First entry on my "ignore" list! Your winning combination of ignorance and obnoxious 'tude means your the first person I've met on this board that I'm absolutely sure I'll never want to hear from again. B'Bye.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Congratulations, LandHard! First entry on my "ignore" list! Your winning combination of ignorance and obnoxious 'tude means your the first person I've met on this board that I'm absolutely sure I'll never want to hear from again. B'Bye.
I simply replied to a question posted by HeikDiesel and HE turned the thread into an argument forum. I'm on your "ignore" list? Good, I don't want to hear from you either, you ignorant douchebag.


GhostAccord, I don't know if you're being an antagonist or not, but I've never seen a shop manual that addresses the question I posted about the plug boot. Aren't tech forums designed for posting questions and answers?
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LandHard
I simply replied to a question posted by HeikDiesel and HE turned the thread into an argument forum. I'm on your "ignore" list? Good, I don't want to hear from you either, you ignorant douchebag.
Now is there really any need for name calling, because he actually knew what you should do to fix your car. I never knew what a spark plug hack (non fouler) was ether But I do know that it will never help you with your current situation. As did HeikDiesel.

Originally Posted by LandHard
Aren't tech forums designed for posting questions and answers?
Yes, That is what these forums are for. Yes it's for posting questions and answers. It also has a very extensive search function, archive & a rather large FAQ section. Yours is an issue that has been covered many times in the past. Did you even try reading the FAQ's or trying the search function prior to posting your question. I mean that is what they are designed for.

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GhostAccord, I don't know if you're being an antagonist or not, but I've never seen a shop manual that addresses the question I posted about the plug boot.
Before I posted my response you had the answer to your original question. You had your answer about replacing the spark plug tube seals. If you had a manual and read through it you may or may not have been able to come up with this solution on your own. Ether way, this is where having a manual will come into play.

Your not always going to find somebody online who has more time than than they know what to do with. That take pics while they do a step by step repair procedure that has already been published in step by step detail in a Honda/Helms manual.

I have given you access to a free PDF download of an other wise $70 manual. If you think I'm being an antagonist and don't want to take my help that's completely up to you.

Good luck with your repairs. In your case I hope that it's the lower O-rings that are leaking.

Cheers
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I've been having problems with my spark plug wires lately, having to mess around with the rubber boots and whatnot, because they weren't staying put. anyway, when I finally thought I had that problem fixed, one of the spark plugs started fouling and I found that one of the plug wells had some oil inside it. I cleaned it out and installed a non-fouler but the plug wire is now sticking out an inch or so.

what am I supposed to do with this? should I cut the plastic tube on the end of the wire shorter so it goes fits properly?

also, I test drove it and it ran fine for about 20 minutes, but then because of the plug wire/boot sticking out, it started to loosen from the plug and started running erratically.
which non fouler you used and which can you give me details non fouler i am also looking for one
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