96 to 97 Civic weight difference uncovered lol
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96 to 97 Civic weight difference uncovered lol
In 96 the 5 speed EX weighed 2483lbs
In 97 the 5 speed EX weighed 2496lbs
In 98 the 5 speed EX weighed 2504lbs
now I dont yet know why the 98 weighs more than the 97 but owning both a 96 and 97 at the same time I found exactly where the extra weight is. Searching many times I could not find anyone that had the reason for the weight increase, it was just assumed it was a chassis reinforcement but unknown as to where. Check it out...
96:
97:
Seems like the bar would weigh more than 13lbs because its pretty thick and heavy duty. I'm not about to unbolt it to weigh it but yeah it goes along the back seat step up area from front seat belt to front seat belt. Looks like a good reinforcement if ya ask me.
In 97 the 5 speed EX weighed 2496lbs
In 98 the 5 speed EX weighed 2504lbs
now I dont yet know why the 98 weighs more than the 97 but owning both a 96 and 97 at the same time I found exactly where the extra weight is. Searching many times I could not find anyone that had the reason for the weight increase, it was just assumed it was a chassis reinforcement but unknown as to where. Check it out...
96:
97:
Seems like the bar would weigh more than 13lbs because its pretty thick and heavy duty. I'm not about to unbolt it to weigh it but yeah it goes along the back seat step up area from front seat belt to front seat belt. Looks like a good reinforcement if ya ask me.
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Re: 96 to 97 Civic weight difference
It's funny you post that 2nd picture with that big metal bracket, it is indeed a monster! More so than it looks in the picture, and it is strong as hell. I have a passenger seat belt that was giving me problems in my 2000 coupe, so a week ago i found a 1999 coupe with a good seat belt...man it was some work getting that thing out with that big metal bracket, those bolts are in there solid!!!! I got it done, but, what a job!
I had no idea the earlier models were with out it.
I had no idea the earlier models were with out it.
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Re: 96 to 97 Civic weight difference uncovered lol
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ahhhh ok i remember there being a bump there in my car.I need to replace my carpet some day so i guess ill see it for my self. Sorta interesting how the thing doesnt look painted. that may be a good idea to do for rust prevention.
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I was thinking of painting it because I do see some little tiny spots of very light rust. But over time if that grows and grows well it will **** up your carpet and be useless. Those bolts have to be in there pretty damn good with loctite and torque and hearing that they were a pain makes me hesitant to try and remove it to paint it.
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Re: 96 to 97 Civic weight difference uncovered lol
I actually have this mentioned in my Trim Differences thread in the end about year differences.
The reinforcement gusset is in '97-'00 Civic coupes, hatches and sedans, but none of the '96 models. I had an extra and could not sell it even though I think it could be a nice safety measure to add to a '96.
Each of the three pieces weight 7 pounds, so it's not just 13 pounds, it's 21 pounds total.
Coupes and hatches use the same parts, but the sedans use a different part number. I'm not sure of the difference, if there is any.
6G Civic Trim Differences
Some of this information is from the manual and some is just stuff I knew.
The reinforcement gusset is in '97-'00 Civic coupes, hatches and sedans, but none of the '96 models. I had an extra and could not sell it even though I think it could be a nice safety measure to add to a '96.
Each of the three pieces weight 7 pounds, so it's not just 13 pounds, it's 21 pounds total.
Coupes and hatches use the same parts, but the sedans use a different part number. I'm not sure of the difference, if there is any.
6G Civic Trim Differences
Some of this information is from the manual and some is just stuff I knew.
Originally Posted by NOFX
And more info (from the Honda Service Manual for USDM and Canadian 6th gens).
Outline of '96 Model Changes
- *First year for new generation.
Outline of '97 Model Changes
- The molding side seal was added.
- The method of installing the rear cushion was changed (2D/3D).
- A middle floor gusset was added and the method of detaching the seat belt retractor was changed (2D/3D).
- The installation position of the washer tube was changed.
- *Black ABS front under spoiler has been added as a factory option added for all US body styles.
- *Front grille is no longer one piece.
Outline of '98 Model Changes
- The hood latch cover was added.
- The hatch handle was added (3D).
- *Cars with moonroofs now come standard with map lights.
- *Full lip kit has been added as factory option for US coupes.
- *GX sedan (compressed natural gas vehicle) trim added for US. Only available in limited quantities as fleet vehicles.
Outline of '99 Model Changes
- The center panel removal and installation procedures are different.
- The front grille removal and installation procedures are different.
- The front air spoiler has been added for some models of 2D.
- A height-adjustable driver's seat was added to some models.
- Emblems were added for some models of 2D (EM1 "DOHC VTEC" side emblem).
- *The front end is updated (bumper, headlights, grille, hood).
- *Rear bumper on coupe and sedan different.
- *A new full lip kit has been added as a factory option.
- *Climate control different design.
- *Climate control now electronically controlled instead of cable.
- *Vehicles are now OBD2B instead of OBD2A.
- *Taillights are now red and white (no amber) on coupes and hatches.
- *Trunk and taillights updated on sedans.
- *Si coupe trim is introduced.
Outline of '00 Model Changes
- The child sear anchor plate removal and installation procedures are different.
- An emblem was added for some model of 3D (Canadian Civic Special Edition).
Outline of '96 Model Changes
- *First year for new generation.
Outline of '97 Model Changes
- The molding side seal was added.
- The method of installing the rear cushion was changed (2D/3D).
- A middle floor gusset was added and the method of detaching the seat belt retractor was changed (2D/3D).
- The installation position of the washer tube was changed.
- *Black ABS front under spoiler has been added as a factory option added for all US body styles.
- *Front grille is no longer one piece.
Outline of '98 Model Changes
- The hood latch cover was added.
- The hatch handle was added (3D).
- *Cars with moonroofs now come standard with map lights.
- *Full lip kit has been added as factory option for US coupes.
- *GX sedan (compressed natural gas vehicle) trim added for US. Only available in limited quantities as fleet vehicles.
Outline of '99 Model Changes
- The center panel removal and installation procedures are different.
- The front grille removal and installation procedures are different.
- The front air spoiler has been added for some models of 2D.
- A height-adjustable driver's seat was added to some models.
- Emblems were added for some models of 2D (EM1 "DOHC VTEC" side emblem).
- *The front end is updated (bumper, headlights, grille, hood).
- *Rear bumper on coupe and sedan different.
- *A new full lip kit has been added as a factory option.
- *Climate control different design.
- *Climate control now electronically controlled instead of cable.
- *Vehicles are now OBD2B instead of OBD2A.
- *Taillights are now red and white (no amber) on coupes and hatches.
- *Trunk and taillights updated on sedans.
- *Si coupe trim is introduced.
Outline of '00 Model Changes
- The child sear anchor plate removal and installation procedures are different.
- An emblem was added for some model of 3D (Canadian Civic Special Edition).
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Re: 96 to 97 Civic weight difference uncovered lol
I was thinking of painting it because I do see some little tiny spots of very light rust. But over time if that grows and grows well it will **** up your carpet and be useless. Those bolts have to be in there pretty damn good with loctite and torque and hearing that they were a pain makes me hesitant to try and remove it to paint it.
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