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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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So I picked up this block yesterday, apparently its an older style benson sleeved darton block, (closed deck version)

So by looking at it,

Do the coolant ports look like their in the right spots?

Do they seem too small?

should I? / can I get them drilled bigger?

Can this block go 84mm safely? or 83mm just incase?


Any other suggestions / opinions?


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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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**** i forgot the resize
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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stick a headgasket on it and match the holes up, thats pretty obvious.......

Most aftermarket sleeves that I know of can go to 84mm, not sure of what you got there.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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looks good
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 96 GSR-T
stick a headgasket on it and match the holes up, thats pretty obvious.......

Most aftermarket sleeves that I know of can go to 84mm, not sure of what you got there.
x2 just match the holes. They look fine from the pic. Is it at 82 now or what? If youre worried go 83. That's what I did
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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It's at 81 right now, but I'm just wondering if those coolant holes are big enough, don't want Any cooling problems
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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They do look a little small but it's kinda hard to tell. If I were you I'd decide on the bore you want to go with, then buy that head gasket. Once you get the gasket, put it on and compare the diameter of the holes. If the ones on the gasket are bigger then drill it out a bit. Be careful
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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anyone else have experience with these blocks?

84mm ok?
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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Have you tried contacting Dan Benson or Laskey Racing? Considering Dan sleeved the motor, and Laskey is their primary distributor, their advice might be worth something.

http://bensonsmachine.com/index.html
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Have you tried contacting Dan Benson or Laskey Racing? Considering Dan sleeved the motor, and Laskey is their primary distributor, their advice might be worth something.

http://bensonsmachine.com/index.html
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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The only issues with old-style sleeves are sinking (didn't machine that lower lip), cockeyed slanted sleeves (simple decking fixes it), or crankcase/coolant leakage (GE and Benson will tell you the stuff to fix it).

Coolant passages aren't an issue, the stock gasket's middle layer just increases hole size for each cylinder closer to the distributor. If anything, I'd only increase the hole size around cylinder #3, that always runs the hottest.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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The only issues with old-style sleeves are sinking (didn't machine that lower lip), cockeyed slanted sleeves (simple decking fixes it), or crankcase/coolant leakage (GE and Benson will tell you the stuff to fix it).

Coolant passages aren't an issue, the stock gasket's middle layer just increases hole size for each cylinder closer to the distributor. If anything, I'd only increase the hole size around cylinder #3, that always runs the hottest.

Is there a way to tell if the sleeve will or has sunk?

where would the coolant leak come from?
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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The sleeve will sink a fraction of an inch, just enough for the HG not seal. A machinist would be able to check that on a big vertical end mill. Due to what cases it, I think they usually remove & re-install the sleeves.

The leaking will be around the sleeves at the bottom of the water jacket area. Usually they just use special leak-stop stuff like the powder junk you find at walmart. These are very uncommon problems, especially if it was sleeved by Benson.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Glove
anyone else have experience with these blocks?

84mm ok?
Yes. If it's a Benson block 84 is ok.

Originally Posted by Glove
Is there a way to tell if the sleeve will or has sunk?

where would the coolant leak come from?
A sunk sleeve is bad news. Chances are you'll notice
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