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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Hello

here is the ups i'm doing on my suspension for my 99 civic ex ej8...

what i'm doing:
- replacing all bushing by energy black
- replacing the upper ball joint & lower ball joint
- replacing tie rods
- replacing powersteering and driveshaft boots
- new brakes pads, new brake discs
- new exhaust

here is the photos of the progress in the first week of work, hope you enjoy it and help someone with questions about the install

it's posted on my website too, www.nrteam.org/tech/31

i will upgrade this thread as i do more stuff..
now i'm waiting for the new brakes, new arms bolts, new caliper seal set and free time hehe..

greatings from brazil, cpl.

-- update 20/04/2010:

What i did:

All rubber bushing replaced by polyurethane from prothane/energy:
-Front Spring Isolators
-Front Upper Control Arm Bushing
-Front Lower Control Arm Bushing
-Front Sway Bar Bushing
-Front Shock Upper/Lower Bushing
-Rear Spring Isolators
-Rear Uppper Control Arm Bushing
-Rear Lower Control Arm Bushing
-Rear Control Arm Bushing
-Rear Shock Upper/Lower Bushing
-Rear Trailing Arm Bushing
-Tie Rod Boots
-Ball Joints Boots
-Steering box passenger side bushing

Plus:
New Tie Rod Ends
New Front Wheel Hubs
New ball joints (upper/down)
New sway bar end links
New brake rotors
New brake pads
Brake caliper seal kit
Stainless Steel 60mm homemade
OBX Twin Loop Muffer














































































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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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0 replies? that sucks :-( had a hard work to post all those pics..


... i posted this in the wrong forum maybe?
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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i was actually waiting to see all the end results and feedback on how the car feels now.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Good pics, a lot of the HT'ers don't like poly because they deform over time plus they are lazy to install or don't have the resources to do it themselves. I also liked how you did the other maintenance during your install another thing that commonly over looked.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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good job man.

I bought as a kit for my Sedan Civic LX 00, but in red, I hope to have them in my country the 30th of this month, this tutorial will help me a lot with the installation.

very good pictures.

I would like to see photos of the installation for the rear
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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oh you did a good job
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Nice work both on the install and the post here.

Car will feel and ride like a rock.
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good work,
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sayyoooon
i was actually waiting to see all the end results and feedback on how the car feels now.
hehe.. i will finish just in february... i'm working on the car only at the saturdays now =(

Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
Good pics, a lot of the HT'ers don't like poly because they deform over time plus they are lazy to install or don't have the resources to do it themselves. I also liked how you did the other maintenance during your install another thing that commonly over looked.
really HTers dont like poly? didnt knew that... and they deform over time? deform how? but that is in a long time right...?

Originally Posted by magohata
good job man.

I bought as a kit for my Sedan Civic LX 00, but in red, I hope to have them in my country the 30th of this month, this tutorial will help me a lot with the installation.

very good pictures.

I would like to see photos of the installation for the rear
nice i'm glad this will help you.. any doubt pm me i'm glad to help.

i'm starting the rear in two weeks.. wait for pics and keep reading this thread.

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oh you did a good job
tkz

Originally Posted by kristo
Nice work both on the install and the post here.

Car will feel and ride like a rock.
Thankz :D hope the handling improov

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good work,
thankz
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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In this picture of the top plate

The exterior bushing is not in good position (upsidedown)







a lot of work for installing ES bushing kit..
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CplNet
really HTers dont like poly? didnt knew that... and they deform over time? deform how? but that is in a long time right...?
I have personally seen 1.5 years but on these boards usually 2-5 years. I'm pretty sure weather conditions have something to do with it.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JLCivixHBDX
In this picture of the top plate

The exterior bushing is not in good position (upsidedown)







a lot of work for installing ES bushing kit..
hello, thankz a lot for your help..

i was in doubt about this bushing, but i believe it isn't like the stock position.. i tried it.. and the sleeve doesnt fit well... and the format of the poly bushing is a little diff from the stock one too..

take a look at the stock / poly bushing height/format here please:
http://yfrog.com/0aimg0755nj
http://yfrog.com/3uimg0756j
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
I have personally seen 1.5 years but on these boards usually 2-5 years. I'm pretty sure weather conditions have something to do with it.
oh ****, no way! ( really?
it should last at last 3years .. that is the minimum i accept hehe.

where do you live? it's cold ? maybe something with the weather indeed.. but you are in a too hot or too cold area? i'm in brazil.. here's hot.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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dude.....i just did all this to my EJ right before i put it away!!!

COMPLETE DIFFERENCE!!!

i did some little maitenence things whiel i was under there as well....check it out....here is a link ot my thread i made....

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/more-than-i-expected-doesnt-even-come-close-1-job-turns-into-10-updated-pics-2653817/


check it out!!!

the difference is amazing.....read my thread....let me know if you got a ?'s....
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oh ****, no way! ( really?
it should last at last 3years .. that is the minimum i accept hehe.

where do you live? it's cold ? maybe something with the weather indeed.. but you are in a too hot or too cold area? i'm in brazil.. here's hot.
Hawaii, probably hot like Brazil.
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There are other issues with poly bushings, too - namely the poly RTA bushings tend to bind whereas rubber, hard rubber, or spherical allows the proper range of suspension motion. Spherical isn't really suited for daily street use, though.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:28 AM
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+photos/progress..

new brake disc rotors, new lca bushing, new lower ball joint and boot





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nice work man..very detailed!!!
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thankz

i'm starting the rear this weekend and will post more pics.
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Update from saturday:

































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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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good job man!!

and finally received my bushing kit in red I have completed almost all the front, but still have problems with the rear of the car.
Where can I get the bushing for this part



these are not included in the kit

I could not find on the website of energysuspension.
please help !!!!!
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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theres no doubt. this is the wrong way.

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I dont think that energy suspension makes rear lower control arm bushings for EK's. But here are Prothane polyurethane rear lower control arm bushings. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PTP-8-308-BL/
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Originally Posted by Tyson
theres no doubt. this is the wrong way.


hummm it's wrong? ok i will reassemble

i invert the upper bushing position
and the lower bushing? same position as upper or oposite to the upper ?
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Originally Posted by magohata
good job man!!

and finally received my bushing kit in red I have completed almost all the front, but still have problems with the rear of the car.
Where can I get the bushing for this part



these are not included in the kit

I could not find on the website of energysuspension.
please help !!!!!

humm im needing it too.... i will research the options and post here but i believe it will be the prothanes.. depeding on the price
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