skunk2 or ground control, which should i go with? either way im getting tokico hp blues...

 

im going with h and r sports.i have the skunk 2s on my car now.it came with them.the ride is s$%t on the skunk 2s.

 

how low are you going to go?

 

Tokico Blues are a very bad choice for both GC's and Skunk2's. The skunk2 spring rate is way too high for those shocks, so expect to be bouncing all over the place and bottoming out a lot (especially) in the front if you lower it more than 1.5".

Tokico blues are not good for anything lower than a 1.5" drop. If you keep it above a 1.5" drop your ride wont be too bad, but the shocks will be very underdampended when paired up with either of the coilovers you are looking at.

The good thing about Ground Controls is that you can order a custom spring rate from them. Off the Shelf they are 350 lb/in front and 250(ish) lb/in rear for EF's. Skunk2 coilover springs are in the 500's both front and rear IIRC.

Keep in mind that you can replace the coilover springs and change the rates on BOTH sleeves.

So it boils down to this:

I have owned both and I think both are awesome. The key is that you get GOOD shocks that can handle higher spring rates especially when the car is lowered.

I prefer the GC sleeves over the skunk2's because they are easier to adjust. GC's use an allen pinch bolt while the skunk2's use two collars that lock together and sometimes freeze in place which is a huge PITA.

By "GOOD" shocks I mean, Tokico Illuminas, KYB AGX, Koni Yellows, Bilstein Sport etc.


What shocks are you running them with?

 

Ground Control all the way. I have had them on every Honda I've ever had (on #7 right now). Very easy to adjust, like mentioned above and a really nice ride. Make sure that if you use Koni or Bilstien you get the appropriate G/C coil-over sleeve, as there are two different part numbers depending on your shock setup.

 

im wanting to drop it probly like 2" or 2.5", so pretty low. im not really going for a race car quality ride, but comfortable and not bouncy would be nice. im a newb and dont know much about spring rates and sleeves... enlighten me please.

 

Well, if you will be going that low on tokico blues, just expect a harsh ride. It concerns me a bit as well that you say you are a "noob" because this setup can be dangerous if you plan on driving fast over bumpy roads. It is much easier to lose control. Ok, Im off my soap box now haha.

That being said, "spring rate" refers to the amount a spring compresses when loaded with a certain amount of weight. The stock springs on EF hatches are rated at 250 pounds per inch in the front and 150 pounds per inch in the back.

For example, when you brake, the front of your car dips down as weight shifts forward. The front springs will compress 1 inch for every 250 pounds of weight (force) that pushes down on the spring. The higher the spring rate, the more weight required to compress the spring and vice-versa. Make sense?


I don't feel like hosting pics of coilover sleeves to show you haha.

So click the link below and you will see what I mean.

The collar is GOLD and the sleeve is RED : http://www.dynotechonline.com/store/images/4516_dp.jpg

 

yea blues suck i have them in the front and my car is slamed when i say slam i mean -3 camber slamed lol and as for gc coils i love them on agx kyb which is my rears set up my only issue is the seat for the oem spring keeps me from ajusting my coil lower

 

so what if i went with the illuminas and the skunk2 would they be able to handle that kind of a drop?

 

Yeah, that would be a nice setup.

 

tokico blues for the win