Some input on everything one needs to know about front camber..?
ie: Aftermarket vs Skunk2

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/no-you-do-not-need-camber-kits-2614449/
there ya go.

btw, all camber kits are aftermarket.

 

By aftermarket I think he meant "EGAY" or noname

 

that still doesnt make sense...

skunk2 = aftermarket.

what do you want to change your camber for?

you dont need it if youre simply lowered. fix your toe after lowering, not camber. camber is good for handling. thats what you need to know.

 

I want new tires becuase the inside of my tires are now bald. I don't want to have extreme tire wear on my new tire so I thought a camber kit would extend the life of my tires. I was thinking that a camber kit would have at least a LITTLE effect on improving traction and tire wear..? But if you say that its just the toe, I won't bother with a camber kit. Thinking of Azenies RT-615 195/60/14.

Oh, and by aftermarket I did mean eBay, no-name stuff.
So... skunk2 front camber kit vs no name kit

 

Man! Fck dat topic, datz full of bullshit!

No doubt u want to use camber to prevent extreme tire wear and improve traction, even on road conditions. Believe me, Ive tried it boths ways. U definitely need it. I would recommend the skunk2, or ingalls set.

cheerz!

 

Yeah, you're a tool.

CoastalSi, did you even read the thread that I linked in my first post???

 

I read it and still think that this is funny.

Now I do get a slight bit of inner wear, but I attribute that to my worn stock bushings that aren't keeping the toe in check like they should. I have all new bushings waiting to go in and I expect tire wear to be even less than before. But my tires do usually wear down past the wear bars before the inner edge shows any belts, so at that time it's time to replace the tires anyway.


But whatever, get an alignment for your toe and if you are still just wearing out the inside take some pics post them right back here and get a camber kit and take some more and post some more. It will be fun.

 

ok tyson i got a question. i remember a few threads back this same convo came up about you just need a alignment, and then some other person said no you need a camber kit. now you sided with the alignment. my question is (because im going to change one of the two) when getting an alignment do they fix the toe or how does all that work, im not up to date with alignments. and also what is the advantage to using the camber kit?

 

it really depends on the car that you have most hondas just have adjustable toe from the factory. There are other allignment angels that are important but not adjustable(sai, kpi, thrust line caster,camber, scrub radius etc). the proper alignment sequence is
rear camber
rear toe
front caster (mostly not adjustable)
front camber
front toe


some shops only due the front while other do the a 4 wheel alignment. depending on the equipment available. most time when a honda comes in they do what is reffered to as "set the toe and let it go" since camber is not a angle that is adjusted. the rear is adjusted first since it sets the thrust line. camber and caster both affect each other and it is very important the the order be followed. whatever the case is toe is set last. alignments on most hondas are really simple.

 

just read this link.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/rear-camber-2696766/

like that guy asking about decreasing his camber, and planning to use Azenis, that combination doesnt make sense. negative camber is good for handling so leave it. it doesnt chew up tires, its the toe that chews up tires that ppl are so worried about. i would only spend the money to decrease negative camber for a drag race setup where straight line grip is most important.

dont ever ask for a 2 wheel alignment. thats for trucks and unsophisticated cars with beam axle rear suspension where rear toe CANT be changed. you should always expect to get a 4 wheel alignment. a basic alignment consists of adjusting toe so the cr tracks straight. all the toe adjustment is already built in on the CRX. and again, thats all you need to worry about.

 

for tire wear yes for drive ability no

 

lol what? cant keep your hand on the wheel to keep it straight on the freeway?

what driveability issues do you refer to...

 

ok thanks tyson good tech, ya i know alot of people debate this issue.

 

since you are such a alignment professional you should now the effects of camber and caster why dont you tell people what camber, caster, sai, and the changing of scrub radius can cause

 

since when did i say im a professional? lol. im happy i havent been stuck under other ppls cars for the last 10 years of my life.... lol. im just a guy running my mouth on the internet with a high post count.

why dont you answer my question? you called it out.

 

Actually I'm (I was, still have the ASE's though) a professional. Generally speaking the only alignment angle that causes a true "pull" is the caster angle. The caster angle is the angle at which the vertical steering axis leans back. Ideally, for cars that drive on the right-hand side of the road, you want the caster to be slightly higher on the right side. This is not adjustable on EF chassis cars, unless you have an aftermarket traction bar. Camber can only cause tire wear and pulling issues if it is very extreme (only part of the tire on the ground) or has a huge side-to-side difference on the car, respectively. SAI and scrub radius are not adjustable and are design features that make a car handle better or worse. The only way these two measurements can change is if something is damaged or different wheels and/or tires are used from side to side.

 

LOL !!