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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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i have a 95 ls in a 94 hatch. my engine is idling high even after it gets to operating temp. it never used to do this until after i replaced the headgasket. i didnt touch the idle screw. it is also spitting out a funny smelling white smoke out of the exhaust. i just replaced the headgasket, timing belt, water pump, and thermostat
anyone know why it would be doing this?
i hope to god its not a cracked sleeve
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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i have a similar problem, bump for an anwser
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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i just checked my compression and its ok
i need some ideas of what it could be..
anyone?
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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the white smoke could just be your car warming up. does it go away after the engine warms up?
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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u may have gotten some coolant in the cylinders when changing the headgasket. but if it persists, u may have put the headgasket on wrong or was given the wrong one. did u get the head re-surfaced before u installed the new headgasket?

and white smoke usually = coolant
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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i just took my car out for a test drive and the white smoke went away after driving for a few min
also after runing the engine for a little while the idle started to surge up and down instead of just staying high so im pretty sure i need to clean my IACV.. correct?
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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You may want to try bleeding your coolant system along with cleaning the IAC valve. It could also be a vacuum leak. Thoroughly spray your intake manifold, throttle body, and all vacuum lines from top to bottom and if your idle raises you have a vacuum leak. Just be careful not to spray the alternator.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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You may want to try bleeding your coolant system along with cleaning the IAC valve. It could also be a vacuum leak. Thoroughly spray your intake manifold, throttle body, and all vacuum lines from top to bottom and if your idle raises you have a vacuum leak. Just be careful not to spray the alternator.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Go clean your IACV with carb cleaner, come back and let us know how it went.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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i cleaned the IACV and that took care of the surging idle. but my engine is still idling high.
could this be my FITV?
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Did you try sprying the intake manifold and things with some brake clean or carb cleaner?
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Did you try sprying the intake manifold and things with some brake clean or carb cleaner?
vaccum leak can cause high idle?
so once i hit the right spot my idle will settle back down?
the idle is steady, its just to high.

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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I have a similar problem. My car idles high but goes back to normal after being on for a while.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by heeltoehonda
vaccum leak can cause high idle?
so once i hit the right spot my idle will settle back down?
the idle is steady, its just to high.
Yes a vacuum leak can cause a high idle depending on the location of the leak. Once you hit the right spot the idle will raise not lower.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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yeah, spray the intake mani. etc and if there is a leak it will suck teh carb cleaner in and the idle will surge in which case you will have found the leak. Try oiling the accelerator cable as well and make sure that is traveling freely and goes to the bottom of travel.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathannx2
I have a similar problem. My car idles high but goes back to normal after being on for a while.
if it goes back to normal after a few min of runing depending on how cold it is outside. most likely thats just your car warming up. mine doesnt go away at all. its stays high no matter how long i drive my car. just my opinion though
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by itsnotfast
Yes a vacuum leak can cause a high idle depending on the location of the leak. Once you hit the right spot the idle will raise not lower.
Originally Posted by Blue_eg95
yeah, spray the intake mani. etc and if there is a leak it will suck teh carb cleaner in and the idle will surge in which case you will have found the leak. Try oiling the accelerator cable as well and make sure that is traveling freely and goes to the bottom of travel.
ok thanks. i'll give that a try tonight when i have time
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by heeltoehonda
if it goes back to normal after a few min of runing depending on how cold it is outside. most likely thats just your car warming up. mine doesnt go away at all. its stays high no matter how long i drive my car. just my opinion though
Alright, thanks.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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If your idle doesn't calm back down after warming up you might want to take a look at the FITV. I recenlty had that problem and it was because some mechanic (it was before I married the wife and worked on her car) broke a head off of a bolt on the FITV cover thus getting the mechanism clogged with trash. It would no longer move with the coolant temperature. it was probably leaking coolant too. Not sure.

But yeah, vacuum leak is always a good culprit for this kind of thing. Just blow some kind of volatile substance over the entire vacuum system slowly and if the idle increases at a certain point you have found a leak. Personally I just open up a bernzomatic propane torch a little and run it slowly across all of the lines and gaskets.

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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yeah, the fitv could cause it, it wouldnt hurt to check it out
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by S_F
If your idle doesn't calm back down after warming up you might want to take a look at the FITV. I recenlty had that problem and it was because some mechanic (it was before I married the wife and worked on her car) broke a head off of a bolt on the FITV cover thus getting the mechanism clogged with trash. It would no longer move with the coolant temperature. it was probably leaking coolant too. Not sure.

But yeah, vacuum leak is always a good culprit for this kind of thing. Just blow some kind of volatile substance over the entire vacuum system slowly and if the idle increases at a certain point you have found a leak. Personally I just open up a bernzomatic propane torch a little and run it slowly across all of the lines and gaskets.
good info
thanks for the help
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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is there any easy quick way to remove the FITV on a ls?
looks like its going to be a pain in the *** to remove and clean without removing the I/M first, and i dont want to have to do that.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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get a haynes manual, its always good to have around
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by heeltoehonda
is there any easy quick way to remove the FITV on a ls?
looks like its going to be a pain in the *** to remove and clean without removing the I/M first, and i dont want to have to do that.
It has 3 bolts. Two are not so bad but the third in back can take a while to get off. Just take you time and don't get too pissed off. It's not as bad as a lot of jobs are.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by S_F
It has 3 bolts. Two are not so bad but the third in back can take a while to get off. Just take you time and don't get too pissed off. It's not as bad as a lot of jobs are.
ok thanks
i'm going to pick up a haynes manual tomorrow
hopefully i can get it fixed soon
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