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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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car is 98 honda prelude, honda guru's are there any oil lines or areas that oil can leak from on top of the oil pan?? just had my motor put back together and its leaking oil coming down to the oil pan im thinking the oil pan gasket but just wanted to make sure if anyone else had any other insight to wat it might be..

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i just cleaned it up and looked again its leaking from this side down to the oil pan somewhere from that timing belt area to being from that oil pan area....

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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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is it on just the pan or coming down the block and onto the pan as well? if your motor is all clean but the oil pan it could be the pan gasket or a loose oil filter.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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If I were to guess, either one of the oil cooler hoses are leaking or you have an oil filter rubber gasket that ripped off the old one still sealed to the oil filter housing.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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checked it out like twice already had it all cleaned up too...on top of the oil filter were there's that big hose that looks like a radiator hose has a little oil that looks like its been there for a while but other then that it doesnt look like its leaking from anywhere around the top of the block..also i started the car up for a while to find the leak didnt leak anything unless you drive it for a while then it leaks...but the leak seems to be major..just called honda and the guy over there told me there's no oil pan gasket thats used for the motors which i always thought there was he just told me honda bond and gasket sealers are used...well still in need of help...oh yeah checked to see if the oil filter was tight and it was, forgot to post...
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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There's definitely an oil pan gasket that' used. I just took one off my car.

What I would do is jack the car up and clean up as much of the engine as you can. The drive the car around a little, put it back up and jackstands to check to see if you notice any fresh oil.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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pics are up..help
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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could be one of the seals for the oil pump starting to go. so its a small leak now, might get worse later. Try and remove the lower timing belt cover to get a better look. it might even be leaking from the camshaft seals on that side, the oil would run down the side behind the camgears,timing belt, etc. and leak in around that area.

try and get all the covers out of the way starting with the easiest (upper timing belt cover)
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Yes the 5th gen H22 has an oil pan gasket. It is a rubber seal that fits in a groove on the flywheel end of the motor #13 in this exploded parts view. Part# is 11251-P5K-000 GASKET, OIL PAN list is $3.32

As for liquid gasket to use for the oil pan - Honda recommends using their Ultra Flange II sealant, and NOT Hondabond, but I suppose you could use Hondabond.



The 4th gen H22 has a stamped steel oil pan and the gasket for it surrounds the entire top of the pan that meets the block.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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could be one of the seals for the oil pump starting to go. so its a small leak now, might get worse later. Try and remove the lower timing belt cover to get a better look. it might even be leaking from the camshaft seals on that side, the oil would run down the side behind the camgears,timing belt, etc. and leak in around that area.

try and get all the covers out of the way starting with the easiest (upper timing belt cover)
upper timing belt is off...no leaks that ive seen from the top yet...my timing belt snapped and just put a new one in and had the head re-done, waterpump some new seals...cars been running but its leaking to the point of were its draining my car dry of oil...if i drive the car it starts to leak then at a dead stop you can see like one inch wide drops probably like three at most building up dripping from the oil pan cause it drips down to it
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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My guess is that it is coming from behind the timing belt cover.

If your oil pan gasket was leaking you would notice it leaking from the whole seal.

When I replace an oil pan gasket seal, I usually put some gasket sealant on from auto zone, doesnt have to be honda bond, or even that other recommend sealant either.

Also, the torque down sequence on the oil pan should be followed, as well as also re-torquing after the motor has been turned on and let warmed up for a little bit as well.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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is there anything from under the timing belt cover i should be worried about
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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All the seals, crank seal, balance shaft seals.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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oil pump seal i think its number 45 in the diagram posted above. that went on mine and had major leakage, good thing i caught in it time. For a friend of mine it was too late, he ran it all day with no oil until it just basicaly died.

I noticed oil dripping down from the lower timing cover, same spot as you. the part itself is cheap its getting there (the labor) that makes it expensive. just to be safe buy them all since your gonna have everything off anyway
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bb6_00
oil pump seal i think its number 45 in the diagram posted above. that went on mine and had major leakage, good thing i caught in it time. For a friend of mine it was too late, he ran it all day with no oil until it just basicaly died.

I noticed oil dripping down from the lower timing cover, same spot as you. the part itself is cheap its getting there (the labor) that makes it expensive. just to be safe buy them all since your gonna have everything off anyway
No, number 45 in the parts pic I posted above is the REAR MAIN SEAL



You probably meant #28 front crank seal or #29 the balance shaft seal or the oil pump gasket #5

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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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so if those two gaskets are my problem i would need to take the timing belt off ect...
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJGB3
No, number 45 in the parts pic I posted above is the REAR MAIN SEAL



You probably meant #28 front crank seal or #29 the balance shaft seal or the oil pump gasket #5

yea i was looking at the wrong diagram, this one has the correct ones. you would basically need to remove the crank pulley, timing belt and just about everything else in the way. ow that you have everything out to change that try and change as much as you can of the all the little seals in that area just for insurance and preventing having to go through the trouble again
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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Find anything?
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