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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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what up honda-tech? happy thanksgiving weekend..
well i just got this B16a short block yesterday for 80 bux and i dont know what gen it is...its my first b-series and im planing on doing all self..

anyways here's my Q's

what gen/OBD is this block?

what sensors are missing?

and whats needed to drop this in a 96 civic ex??

any info would be greatly appreciated...

also i need a crank pulley with pin and nut if anyone has one
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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the piston is stamped wit P30
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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2nd gen b16... No crank sensor so it's not the 99-00...
and first gen comes with an oil cooler i believe...
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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so can i drop this in a 96 civic??
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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you'll need to either add the sensors to make it obdII or convert to an obd1 ecu. it doesn't have the crank sensor since it's obd1, so you'll need the whole oil pump from an obdII b16a. so, drop in? no. obviously you need a head too, and lots of other parts. do some searching on swaps. and take a pic of the engine code stamp on the front of the block.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Yeah you can you can you just have to do this...

http://www.ff-squad.com/technet/ckftrick.htm
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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yea i knw bout the shift links,head,axels,harness,ect but i what to knw if its a OBD-1 if so i could use a p28 and convert the car to OBD-1
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by packman5280
you'll need to either add the sensors to make it obdII or convert to an obd1 ecu. it doesn't have the crank sensor since it's obd1, so you'll need the whole oil pump from an obdII b16a. so, drop in? no. obviously you need a head too, and lots of other parts. do some searching on swaps. and take a pic of the engine code stamp on the front of the block.
wrong... don't listen to him... you wanna pass somg and have no codes listen to me...
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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so can i drop this in a 96 civic??
you can drop any motor in any car, but your oil pump on your b16a has no crank angle sensor so you need to either change the oil pump with one that has a spot for the crank angle sensor or perform the crank angle sensor trick
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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wrong... don't listen to him... you wanna pass somg and have no codes listen to me...
what do u mean? if i convert to OBD-1 i cant pass smog???
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bar'dh22
you can drop any motor in any car, but your oil pump on your b16a has no crank angle sensor so you need to either change the oil pump with one that has a spot for the crank angle sensor or perform the crank angle sensor trick
how do u do that?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by burningrex
Yeah you can you can you just have to do this...

http://www.ff-squad.com/technet/ckftrick.htm
wow thanx for this..this is very helpful
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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anymore info?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by burningrex
wrong... don't listen to him... you wanna pass somg and have no codes listen to me...
i stand corrected, thanks.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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was thinking about this some more. you can trick the ecu into thinking you have the CKF sensor, which is fine and better than converting the ecu. however, to "drop in" that motor, you need a lot more stuff. also, i doubt the stock ecu in your 96 civic will control the b16a very well. so again, "drop in" no, but like was said above, you can put any motor in any car, it's all a matter of time and money and knowledge.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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I was looking at the block some more, and i notice that are stamps all over the crankshaft saying "PR3" but the pistons say "P30", so i really need to know what generation is this block from. And once again Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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why do you need to know you cant bar jdm motors any more
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by treoofdqw
I accept with information: you can drop any motor in any car, but your oil pump on your b16a has no crank angle sensor so you need to either change the oil pump with one that has a spot for the crank angle sensor.
repeat what was already stated dosent make you look smart
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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based on the pic, my guess is a JDM b16a SiRII motor. both my JDM b16a and USDM b16a2 had those same stamps in the same locations you mention.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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Your answer......

The engine block is for sure a JDM model, being it's stamped B16A only. The generation doesn't really matter too much, but i can tell you it is a 2nd gen B16 if it has the P30 pistons in it. They gave a compression .2 higher than the pr3 pistons found in usdm engines.

Because of the higher compression at 10.4:1, the 2nd gen B16A was rated at 170hp.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bar'dh22
repeat what was already stated dosent make you look smart
lol..ok i wana know if i put a 2 gen head,intake mani, senors, harness,ect; would it all work right?? like i said before this is my FIRST B-SERIES.. i dont know much about them and what is compatible??
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Deetz
Your answer......

The engine block is for sure a JDM model, being it's stamped B16A only. The generation doesn't really matter too much, but i can tell you it is a 2nd gen B16 if it has the P30 pistons in it. They gave a compression .2 higher than the pr3 pistons found in usdm engines.

Because of the higher compression at 10.4:1, the 2nd gen B16A was rated at 170hp.
thanx know i know what i should start shoping for..
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