I am wondering if i should upgrade my rear brakes (currently drums) to eg ex/si brakes or teg brakes? I ordered hawk hps pads, that should come in tomorrow and have new front rotors and fluid all ready to go. My main reason for asking is because starting next year, the car will see some track time (road courses, and maybe auto-x). Will the rear drums be fine, or should I go ahead and upgrade to rear disc's? If yes, what is the level of difficulty (1-10, 10 being really hard)of tackling this project my self, and what all is needed (master cylinder, odds and ends)? I have access to almost a complete shop tool-wise, and have a moderate skill with cars.

 

I did a rear disc conversion for my hatch with teg rear brakes. The whole process was simple but it was time consuming. The conversion took a day and a half by myself. An experienced mechanic can probably do it in a couple of hours. I'm currently upgrading my brakes with USDM ITR 5 lugs. I noticed a huge difference from drum to disk. If your going to be hammering on the brakes at the track get disc brakes. You are able to upgrade them as necessary according to the power that your engine is producing. If you don't want to do a rear disc conversion then spend money on the front brakes. Safety first man!!! That would suck to hit a corner and destroy your car when all you need to save yourself is a couple hundred dollars on a brake upgrade.

 

Sorry knowledge level is a 3.

 

You don't need a master cylinder upgrade just the proportional 4040 if you do a rear disc conversion.

 

The answer is simply yes.. any rear disc brake upgrade will benefit you in the future for any type of event.

 

just wondering. i mean my car wont break 200whp for a while, but im thinking the hawk pads should work for now. should i be looking for eg rear disc's or teg? is there a difference?

isnt the breakdown like 70/30 front/rear brakes?

 

there are no difference between the integra and 92-95 civic rear discs.. like someone state earlier, just change the proportion valve. Either get an integra or a civic si one.

 

True, DA teg, DC teg, del Sol, EM1...all may not be identical but are all interchangeable. Just swap the whole trailing arm assembly, that should be the easiest. I really like the improved feel of my brakes after the swap. Look on craigslist for cheap swaps, a guy by me has one for $50 just listed today...

If you're interested http://bham.craigslist.org/pts/1416699290.html

 

damn thats cheap! i will look into this after i change the pads tomorrow

 

go with the disc set up. might as well throw on stainless steel hoses also that will stiffen the brake pedal a little bit more too.

 

Stainless lines are on the list for me too. Who has good ones at a good price?

 

Goodridge, Stoptech.. get something that's DOT approved and has a coating over the stainless weave. That weave will trap dirt and debris and when flexing, it will force it into the inner Teflon hose and cause it to fail.

For a street car, rubber hoses are fine. Stainless aren't recommended, but fine as long as they are coated.

 

You also don't "need" a 4040 prop valve, but I'm sure if Honda equips disk brake equipped cars with them, it's a good idea.
If you want one, I got one I took off a DA the other day. PM if interested.

 

That never crossed my mind, great info, thanks.

 

Thats what I always said, even for a while after I did my rear disc swap. Until I figured out that my civic goes through rears pads a fair bit quicker than the fronts. Correct prop valve if only swapping the rear brakes is a 3040 from a '92 - '93 Si hatchback. If you are running Integra brakes all around you need a 4040 prop valve from a '90 - '97 non ABS Integra.

 

Thank you very much for that 94EG8. I didn't know that.

Something people always fail to mention is that the 94 and 95 Civic EX came with larger front disk brakes, the same size as an Integra RS (non-ABS).

Prop valves have funny looking screws. Has anyone ever opened them up? Maybe it'd be possible to take like two 2040s and make one 4040 or drill them out or something?

 

Yeah, I didn't learn that until after researching a while. I saw it mentioned once to go with Goodridge and people were vague, so I looked into it more...

 

they came in!!! will be changing pads, rotors, and fluid tonight. will update after.