Ive searched everywhere and i cant find anyone with an ej1 like me that has posted there camber with 16x8 rims. Im trying to find out how much negative camber i will have if i run 16x8 rims with a +10 offset with a 205/45/16 tire. I have stock shocks with coil sleeves and it is a daily driver so i dont want to rediculus tire wear from too much camber. Please help me with suggestions and if anyone has any pictures please post them. Thanks

 

remember that camber does not wear your tire out... its the toe... you need to get an allingment after you get everything done to you car

 

so do you think that is a safe setup to run on a daily

 

I wouldnt drive on 16x8 +10. Youre going to need a ton of camber to fit those. Youll barely have any contact patch. (If your car is pretty low) If its high enough to not need to camber to fit then it wont look good anyway so.

 

ummm what?
they both do need to be in check for even tire wear.

 

this is incocorect.
there are tons of people runing 3.5 degrees some maybe more, that still retain even tire where,
im runing 2.1 in my rear and i have yet to notice any un uasual wear, where your going to notice uneven wear is if you have are very soft compound.

toe will kill thoes tires very quicky, camber no.
also camber is NOT adjustable on civics with out a camber kit. take it in and have them set toe at 0 and you will be ok, inless your runing a soft compound.

sorry i dont have a ej1 w/ 16x8 but i have a feeling your going to need to roll your fenders if you dont want a lot of camber,

 

well... yes, and no, and yes... you're both partially right.

Any camber will affect tire wear and traction. More camber (positive OR negative) will affect tire wear more and reduce straight line traction. Negative camber will typically add cornering traction to a point, while positive camber will reduce cornering traction.

A small amount will affect tire wear in a small way. I've found that -2.5 degrees does not make an appreciable difference on tire wear. Meaning that -2.5 degrees shouldn't significantly reduce the life of the tire. This is, of course, assuming that toe is kept zeroed. I don't know for sure, but I believe that a little bit of camber will make a little bit of toe tear up tires a WHOLE LOT quicker... at least, I seem to have noticed that.

There are lots of cars that run 1-2 degrees FROM THE FACTORY without horrible tire wear... S2000s, 350Zs, BMWs, etc. All of the crazy wear issues that you may have heard about them were toe wear made a ton worse by a little bit of camber.

As I've said before, I've been running -2.5 degrees for like 6 months now, and there is no noticeable camber wear. There will probably be some in 2-3 years, but I'll be due for new tires by then.

Now, all that said:

I'm not 100% sure about OP's setup, having never worked on anything that extreme, but I personally think that you'd have to run waaaay more camber for that width, ride height, and offset than I'm personally comfortable with. I'm thinking like 5-6 degrees, maybe even more. There are some guys in the suspension forum running that much on track/autocross cars, but I wouldn't do it on a driver. I think it would likely be downright dangerous in a straight line in the rain.

 

negative camber causes premature wearing on the inside of the tire and positve camber causes premature wear on the outside. is your car lowered?

 

sigh.

 

the debate will never end victor. some people will just not get it.

anywho, I'm running a 16x8 but nowhere near as much offset as you. I'm about a 34 offset which is about an inch out from stock. I have about -2 camber front and rear and I have enough room to not need my fenders rolled (they are but I allow extra room). At a 10offset I would guess the wheel is going to be about 2.5 - 3 inches out from stock. Like someone said above probably somewhere around -5camber or so will be needed. This might be the look you're going for and personally I think it would look sick as hell, but probably not safe. Just get your toe aligned regardless of what your camber is set at. You should be fine with tire wear provided you do that.

 

well i would rather not have to ride -5 camber if i dont have to. i want the stretch tire and flush look so if i got some 16x7 40 or 35 offset what size spacers would make that look possible and also what width tire, thanks for all the help

 

is it possible to have the rota grid offroads with around a -2.5 camber? ne one have any pics of grid offroads on a honda

 

I don't think a 16x7 is going to give you much of a stretched tire. I'm not sure about eg's or anything else but if you have an ek or em1 like me you should be able to run a 16x8 +34 offset and it will look like the picture below. With this setup you will have to use stick on weights in the rear (might as well do it all the way around so you can rotate your tires in the future) and about -2 camber. A 16x7 isn't a very wide wheel. A 16x8 is a little wide but not insane. The tires in the photo are 205 40's and I went with those because they were cheap and I knew I would probably just trash them. If you wanted to stretch the tire even more you could go with a 195 45 but it's going to cost a bit more and might be a little harder to find. I like the look of mine because you can tell it's a wider and meaner stance then the run of the mill civic with rotas but if you really want to get crazy do the 195 45 and a little less camber. You will be more flush then this and more stretched but may require a little fender rolling.

 

thank you for the info and pic. its gonna be around another 2 inchs farther out though because the offset is +10. do u think it is possible to still stay around a -2.5 camber with the 205/45/16's?

 

I think with a +10 offset your going to have to do more then -2.5 camber. This is possible it's just going to be less safe. If your toe is aligned your tire wear shouldn't be too uneven even at this extreme of an angle. That would definitely get you the flushed, squatty look I think you're going for, but your 16 inch rim is going to have to be 8 inches wide or better to stretch the tire at all. At that much offset you could probably do a 16x9 (don't take that as a promise). 16x8 is the limit for me at +34 offset. I literally had to use stick on weights because the bead of the wheel is that close to the rear camber adjuster. If you're set on 16's they'll have to be 8 or better. If your set on -2.5 camber they're going to have to be +25 to +34 offset (ballpark). That's all your call.