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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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I just had new struts put into my gsr. Koni str.t struts to be exact. I am still using the same springs which are eibach pros. The car seems to sit almost an inch higher now.

Do I need to wait until they settle in or something to be where they were before?

How long does this take if that is the case?

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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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it could be that the stock struts got lower from crapping out, im not sure what the drop is on those springs (yours) with stock suspension, and idk what they are with koni struts.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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It had an eibach pro kit on it and the eibach struts died so I replaced them with koni's. I believe the eibach drop is 1.6 front and 1.4 back.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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hmm thats weird. it cld be that the struts sat lower cause of them being shot.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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dammit the car is too high now. handles better tho.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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give it time to break in...or jsut cut your springs
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mouab18c1
give it time to break in...or jsut cut your springs
Shocks shouldn't need time to break in.

Originally Posted by TonyRomo
I just had new struts put into my gsr. Koni str.t struts to be exact. I am still using the same springs which are eibach pros. The car seems to sit almost an inch higher now.

Do I need to wait until they settle in or something to be where they were before?

How long does this take if that is the case?

Thanks
Sounds like the shop that did the work did not follow the correct procedure and clock the bushings. If they tightened everything up with the suspension in full droop, the car could sit higher until the bushing wear / tear themselves trying to return to the correct orientation.

I would go loosen every single suspension bolt on the car, then tighten them back to the correct torque with the suspension loaded at ride height. If that corrects the ride height, then call the shop and yell and scream over them failing to follow the correct procedure in the shop manual. If that doesn't fix it, then something else has changed and I'm out of ideas.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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konis , what clip is it on, the shocks there is height adjustments on koni yellows not sure about others, sounds like possible install error

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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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there are seats for the springs on the struts it could be that they are not seated right causing it to sit higher some times about an inch
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by egsleepercivic
konis , what clip is it on, the shocks there is height adjustments on koni yellows not sure about others, sounds like possible install error

gl
Koni str.t, no circlip. Welded spring perch.

Originally Posted by 909Dc2Racer
there are seats for the springs on the struts it could be that they are not seated right causing it to sit higher some times about an inch
We're discussing an Integra, no struts on an Integra (unless you count the RSX).

That aside, welded spring perch on those shocks. No separate seats involved.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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ok my bad (shocks) and there are seats on my koni and on my kyb's and on my tokico's
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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look where this guys thumb is that is where the end of the spring goes
this is where the SEAT is

some times it doesn't seat right and it sits higher causing it to sit like an inch
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 909Dc2Racer
look where this guys thumb is that is where the end of the spring goes
this is where the SEAT is

some times it doesn't seat right and it sits higher causing it to sit like an inch
If you saying that sometimes the spring itself doesn't get seated on the spring perch correctly, I think I get what you are saying.

However, that would be rather obvious, and the spring would end up seating itself quickly driving the car. In fact, it would probably happen just backing the car out of the shop bay.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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sob, I know for a fact that one of them is not seated right. But that is only on one side. The other side sits the same tho and it is seated correctly.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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I'm so pist right now my friends are f*****g idiots.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Do you think it would be cheap to just bring it to a shop and try and have them adjust everything?

Theres a pretty reputable shop that does this kind of stuff close to me.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Shocks shouldn't need time to break in.



Sounds like the shop that did the work did not follow the correct procedure and clock the bushings. If they tightened everything up with the suspension in full droop, the car could sit higher until the bushing wear / tear themselves trying to return to the correct orientation.

I would go loosen every single suspension bolt on the car, then tighten them back to the correct torque with the suspension loaded at ride height. If that corrects the ride height, then call the shop and yell and scream over them failing to follow the correct procedure in the shop manual. If that doesn't fix it, then something else has changed and I'm out of ideas.
I'm pretty sure this is why its sitting higher because this is exactly what happened. I watched the entire process cause I didn't really trust my friend doing the work anyway.

I just texted him telling him that they need to be adjusted, I doubt he will respond tho because he thinks he knows everything.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Different strut. Different perch height? I went from tokico blues to kyb agx and it raised the rear end up some. Everything seated right strut was just slightly different.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Different strut. Different perch height? I went from tokico blues to kyb agx and it raised the rear end up some. Everything seated right strut was just slightly different.
i was thinking that, but wouldn't both the front and rear be raised if the same shocks were all around. I just looked at my car and the rear sits how it did before, it is only the front.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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I thought it was the rear sorry. Make sure the bottom of the strut is seated into the fork properly. Theres a little notch on the back of the strut that is supposed to be down inside of the opening of the fork. For the car to be up an inch higher, if this is the problem, could be very dangerous.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyRomo
i was thinking that, but wouldn't both the front and rear be raised if the same shocks were all around. I just looked at my car and the rear sits how it did before, it is only the front.
This is good advice here:
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Make sure the bottom of the strut is seated into the fork properly. Theres a little notch on the back of the strut that is supposed to be down inside of the opening of the fork. For the car to be up an inch higher, if this is the problem, could be very dangerous.
The shock does need to be fully seated in the fork to be safe. I don't believe I've seen anyone fail to do so, but have seen plenty of people stuff them in too far and then wonder why the nose was low. But, I could see it happening, as I had trouble getting my Konis into the front forks, and actually had to use a pry bar to open the fork up enough to fully seat the shock.

So, check the shock to fork connection. If you can get a light in there, you can just remove the fork pinch bolt, and shine the light through. If the "dent" in the shock is in the right place, you'll see it.

And then follow the shop manual and torque all suspension bushings with the suspension loaded, also known as "clocking the bushings". Only the UCA and large central trailing arm bushings can't have this done to them. The UCA needs to be approximated before install (probably don't need to worry about this one if your friends didn't install a camber kit) and the TA bushing has to be removed to be clocked, so ignore it as well.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
This is good advice here:


The shock does need to be fully seated in the fork to be safe.
If the front of his car is an inch or so higher than it should be.. and the strut not being in the fork enough then yes it chould be very dangerous. Say is it were barely in the fork and he hit a hard bump and the strut sepperates from the fork at 60 mph.. I'm pretty sure something bad is going to happen.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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OK so I brought it to a shop and they said none of the shocks were sitting correctly in the springs. They also said that the eibach bumb stops were too long so they cut them in half.

The front now sits a little bit lower then it was but still not as low as it did before the new shocks. The guy said that possibly the plate on the bottom of the shock that holds the shock in place is a little bit higher than it was on the eibachs.

The back is sitting just right.

He also said that some of the bolts were too loose and that my brake cables were all jacked up because of how my friend put them in there.

This only cost me 85 bucks thankfully.

Lesson: Never let a friend work on your car and pay the extra dollar to bring your car to a good shop.
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