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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Never had a problem with it starting before. When i turn on the car, the fuel pump primes, but when i go to crank it the starter doesnt even try to start it, and the lights in the cluster go dim (gounding somewhere?) . I jumped the starter signal directly from the battery and it fired right up (so its def. not the starter or battery)...starter just isnt getting the signal for ignition.



looking at the wiring diagram...
1) the clutch switch isnt working
2) starter cut relay isnt working
3) OR i have a short or loose connection

my question is where does the BLUE/RED wire turn into the BLACK/WHITE wire?

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Is that a 39 and 41? batter and IG? (is that ignition?)



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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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50a is ignition. you pushing the clutch ALL THE WAY IN (I know, retarded reply, but **** happens)
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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of course im pushing in the clutch all the way in LOL
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Inspect the clutch interlock switch located at the top of the clutch pedal. This is a common problem. If it visually looks fine, then unplug the 2P connector, and install a jumper wire across the two terminals of the free connector. Put the transmission in neutral and then see whether the starter now cranks the engine.

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Nope that didnt work Ron. I jumped the plug with a paper clip and it didnt start. Paper clip has continuity with ground too....so that rules out the ground too (i think).Whats the next step?


take out relay and put 12 volts across black/white and blue/black &
Check for continuity between blue/white and black/red?

God i dont hope this isn't a wiring issue
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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You may have a bad ignition switch. What year? I suspect that you will discover continuity problems in the ON(III) position.


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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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95

so you dont think its the relay?

p.s. thanks a bunch dude
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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so you dont think its the relay?
It could be, but a bad starter cut relay is rare. It's pretty easy to test the ignition switch. The diagram I posted is for 5th gen Civics, but I think the Del Sol is the same.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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It could be, but a bad starter cut relay is rare. It's pretty easy to test the ignition switch. The diagram I posted is for 5th gen Civics, but I think the Del Sol is the same.

ignition switch is good... i did everything twice just to make sure
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Found that in another delsol thread although it looks to be for an EK https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/another-no-start-del-sol-2646489/. Mine looks to be in a different location but has the same color wires...blk/wht, blu/blk, another blk/wht, and blk/red. The wiring diagram in my first post has different color wires.

the first diagram shows blue/black wire going to the clutch switch BUT with the clutch switched jumped (grounded) there is no continuity with ground... However, the BLK/RED wire shows continuity with ground with AND without the clutch switch plug jumped...

IM lost cause the wire colors dont match up.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Salsa
ignition switch is good... i did everything twice just to make sure
Yeah, I posted that diagram. It's for an EG Civic.

Unplug the starter switch connector at the top of the clutch pedal and test for battery voltage to body ground at the connector terminal for the Blu/Blk wire when the key is turned to ON(III). Also check the connector terminal for the Blk wire for continuity to body ground (though your continuity test with the paper clip installed in the connector may indicate that the Blk ground wire is fine).

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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ground is good but there was no voltage... on of the wires was pink instead of BLK/BLU. yes it is the clutch switch
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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ground is good but there was no voltage... on of the wires was pink instead of BLK/BLU. yes it is the clutch switch
I have to ask. Do you have cruise control (CC)? Do you have two switches at the top of the clutch pedal? The CC switch has the pink wire.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Left diagram shows the location of the CC switch. Right diagram shows location of starter switch.



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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Bump, having the same issue with my obdII dc2
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 05:12 AM
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Had the same issue not long ago. The solenoid would pop but wouldn't turn. It ended up being no sufficient ground on the starter. I took the jumping cables and grounded the starter to the chassis. The car starter with no hesitation. Hope that helps.
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