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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Default S300, strain gauge, dog box?

I have a PPG h series dogbox, the shifter has a strain gauge installed, and im using S300. Is anyone using S300 and clutchless shifting and if so, do you have any problems out of it, or anything i should be aware of?
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Nobody knows nothing??

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Default Re: S300, strain gauge, dog box?

I used it and it still hits the gears pretty hard because the retard function pulls timing and then puts it right back in. i talked to them and the next version of the software should allow the timing to ramp back in.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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I used it and it still hits the gears pretty hard because the retard function pulls timing and then puts it right back in. i talked to them and the next version of the software should allow the timing to ramp back in.
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did they say anything about when the update would be?
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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no. it has been a while since they said they would add it.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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So, you wouldn't advise doing WOT shifts until Hondata updates? I've done it chopping the throttle, just not WOT
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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i havnt used it and i wouldn't say to use it. Ramping is a big part of making it all smooth, danny can attest to **** breaking...the timing for that stuff is CRUCIAL.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Hopefully hondata will update
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:58 AM
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Default Re: S300, strain gauge, dog box?

Use the clutch. Clutchless shifting is hard on parts, no matter how you do it. I spent the last year trying to get clutchless shifting to work without breaking. I am giving up and clutching from now on.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:59 AM
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Default Re: S300, strain gauge, dog box?

Originally Posted by jnv255
So, you wouldn't advise doing WOT shifts until Hondata updates? I've done it chopping the throttle, just not WOT
WOT is no problem, just use the clutch.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:00 AM
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Default Re: S300, strain gauge, dog box?

i wouldnt say to give up to others though. If you want to do it, have someone that knows how to do it set it up for you or work on it slowly with money behind you.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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I was going to let JJspec or Ed @ balanced set it up, if they can get it hitting smooth I might try it. Hondata dosent wanna help, they won't respond.

Thanks for the help

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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I was thinking about this and couldn't you just ramp the timing back in on the timing map for the given rpm where you land after your shifts, the only time you will see that rpm is after a shift?
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by base-op.1320
I was thinking about this and couldn't you just ramp the timing back in on the timing map for the given rpm where you land after your shifts, the only time you will see that rpm is after a shift?
That would work I would think. You do have a variable though and that is the driver consistantly shifting at the same point I am thinking. You could probably build in some room for error though.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Hopefully we can do something for it, not a must, but it would be nice.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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I smell broken trans parts all over the race track.....
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Default Re: S300, strain gauge, dog box?

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That would work I would think. You do have a variable though and that is the driver consistantly shifting at the same point I am thinking. You could probably build in some room for error though.

It just gives you more of a reason to hit the shifts at the right rpm, hehe
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nonvtecallmotor
I smell broken trans parts all over the race track.....
lol, hopefully not, if it's not working right, I will clutch it.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by base-op.1320
It just gives you more of a reason to hit the shifts at the right rpm, hehe
Lol! No pressure there, now is there.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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if you shift at 10000 in every gear...you are not gonna land on the rpm everytime...so you could have dead spots on the map for the other gears.
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