Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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I have a 95 del Sol Si with a d16z6 with minor bolt ons. I was curious whether I should continue building it up and turbo it..... or swap for a b16. I dont have gobs of money or some place to let my car sit for a month waiting for a motor. Its a toss up for me but I need a little push in the right direction. thanks
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 02:06 AM
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If you don't have a place to let your car sit. Maybe the best thing for you is Turbo. Since it's just about 1 day of a weekend to install it. D16Z6 are good for turboing also. But my advise for you is to Swap to a B16A then turbo it.
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I'm pretty sure you already asked this question in another thread. Turbo the D16Z6. You will make alot more HP than a B16 for the price of a B16.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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i say if you swap do something at least 1.8 and up. if not boost it.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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I would say boost the z6. But if you look around you can find a good deal on a full ls swap and then turbo that down the road.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:28 AM
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Well if he would swap a B in there then I would say B20 or LS. Although B20 is more disgusting, especially when u put a VTEC head on it.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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it depends. fya dont have the dough, you'd probably get a crappy turbo set up anyway with your stock motor. probably ones that has mostly parts from f&*ng china. so if you could get an old (but good) b16a eg from the junkyard, with little imminent rebuilding work, i'd suggest you go for the swap.

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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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you can have a motor in a week and a half. shipped
*cough* hmotorsonline

(I'm getting an h22 in today here at work from them!)
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Originally Posted by atorni
it depends. fya dont have the dough, you'd probably get a crappy turbo set up anyway with your stock motor. probably ones that has mostly parts from f&*ng china. so if you could get an old (but good) b16a eg from the junkyard, with little imminent rebuilding work, i'd suggest you go for the swap.
wtf ru talking about. How are you going to get a B16A swapped EG from the junkyard? None of our civics (except 99-00 Si) came with B16's. And none of them came with JDM B16A's.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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ls FTW. Cheap easy to swap, easy to find, loves boost, can do VTEC head swap, one weekend to swap it over, no wiring issues, nice torque. (Just swapped mine in with a rebuild and love it).
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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The del sol had a B16 in it. Not easy to find, but it was there.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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well I'm not looking for monstrous power. I decided between these two choices because 1. the z6 I already have.... and 2. the b16 I hear is a very easy swap over. the only engine swap I've done before was a mustang GT but we were swapping it with the same motor. How easy is the ls swap? What all would I need to turbo the z6? ugh, i'm just so confused
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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I found some nice complete change over motors for pretty cheap on hmotorsonline.

for example--B16A including everything for $2250. B18B for $2000. etc.....
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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You could find a local B18B1 for cheaper. There is a big difference in feel from the Z6 and the B1. I hear the B16 feels like a Z6 until VTEC. I like the pull personally.
You should be able to find a local swap for 800-1200, at least that's what people in WA are sellin' them for. Also the ls swap is just as easy, if not easier because you don't have to run extra lines for the VTEC.
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/d16z6-2637052/

read this thread.

me and jimster have put alot of info for turbo d16z6 in this if you are willing to read
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 92ehatch
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2637052

read this thread.

me and jimster have put alot of info for turbo d16z6 in this if you are willing to read
I saw they said use a y8 tranny, would I have to get new cv axles too? cuz my tranny is going out too
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do both
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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You should be able to use your stock axles. I take it your gonna stick with the z6 and boost it then?
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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thats what I'm kinda leanin towards. I dont know much about internals and it would be a great way to learn as opposed to buying a perfectly good b16 apart and possibly breaking something because idk what I'm doing. I'm going to try to learn a lil more and replace the stuff in my motor I can easily get to. It's my daily driver and I cant have it sitting for long periods of time. Then I will buy everything I need to do the turbo setup and do everything at once, maybe having to buy a junk car as a driver in the meantime.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Since you have a Sol, you could try and find a Sol with a B16A3 is what I believe was in them. Straight forward swap and easy to work with as well.
As for the Z6, are you planning on rebuilding it for boost? Do you have a blueprint for what you want as far as HP and the things you'll need?
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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I am looking for around 300 hp.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Sounds like your gonna need to rebuild you engine to safely and reliably get to that. That's down time, unless you can source another Z6 and swap it out later.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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well yes, I know i need to rebuild it. that's why i was thinkin bout a motor swap. good weekend project.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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I say ls or GSR and boost it if you want 300 whp. The Z6 will take a lot of work to get it an extra 200 hp.
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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IDK why but I'm not too hot on b18s. I know they make great hp but.... idk... b16s appeal to me more..



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