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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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I bought a Honda a year ago from a friend and ended up breaking the car alarm remote when I dropped it. Now, I've tried over and over to program a new remote for the system but it refuses to go into Learn/Program mode so the remotes I bought are useless. Recently I got the idea to switch out the current alarms brain with another one. The currently installed one is an Automate from Directed Electronics and I found a basic Viper alarm (Also from Directed Electronics) at Best Buy. I don't know what exact Automate model it is, the only mark it has is the ID: (EZSDEI437). Would it be possible to switch the brains even though one is Viper and the other is Automate but both are from DEI and leave the current wiring/switches/sensors in the vehicle?
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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If no one has any suggestions on switching the alarm "brains"...
Is there anyone familiar with DEI alarms?
I can't get my alarm to go into Program/Learn mode at all. I've searched for hours on Google today and yesterday and the farthest I get is the programming guide in this link: http://www.drdetailshop.com/remoteprogram.html
The guide would be great and all, if only my alarm responded in Step 3 insteading of doing nothing like it does now.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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if the harness is the same, then yes you can.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Need a model number for the Automate, not all DEI alarms use the same method for transmitter learn routine, some also have programing "lock out" jumpers that must be moved to "learn" position and with others the transmitter learn routine can be locked out with the DEI Bitwriter, [Bitwriter is needed to unlock learn routine] so drop the Automate brain and get a model number. 94
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Need a model number for the Automate, not all DEI alarms use the same method for transmitter learn routine, some also have programing "lock out" jumpers that must be moved to "learn" position and with others the transmitter learn routine can be locked out with the DEI Bitwriter, [Bitwriter is needed to unlock learn routine] so drop the Automate brain and get a model number. 94
There's no model number on it, these are the only possible identifying marks:
ID: EZSDEI437
Des.345,711
OK/4I Sticker
Where are these "lock out jumpers" located? On the side of the brain, inside it, or somewhere else?

I took a couple pictures too, so if anyones good with wiring and could help me figure out why it won't go into program mode...

Wire harness, number says HWAXC16B

Pciture of the plugins
Words on the side read:
-Shock Sensor (White 4 Pin)
-Status LED (White 2 Pin)
-VRS Switch (Red 2 Pin)
-Prog. Switch (White 2 Pin)
-Valet Switch (Blue 2 Pin)
-Door Locks (White 3 Pin)
-Greenwire ( (-)Output Lock, (+)Output Unlock)
-Bluewire ( (+)Output Lock, (-)Output Unlock)

Hands kind of in the way but I had to hold it to get the picture...
The words on the bottom upside down read:
12 Pin Primary Harness
-Red/White (-) = Output Channel 2
-Red (+) Input = 12v Power
-Brown (+) Output = Siren
-Yellow (+) Input = Switched Ignition
-Black (-) Input = Chasis Ground
-Violate (+) Input = Door Switch
-Blue (-) Input = Warn/Trigger
-Green (-) Input = Door Switch
-Black/White (-) Output = Domelight Supervision
-White/Blue (-) Output = Channel 3
White (+) Output = Parking Lights
-Orange (-) Output = When Armed

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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 04:24 AM
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actually we needed to see the top lol.
your unit is basically a 300 series. on the top it should list automate #
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by audioroach
actually we needed to see the top lol.
your unit is basically a 300 series. on the top it should list automate #
I would have taken pictures of the top but there's no markings there at all
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 04:57 AM
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That harness wont be compatible with any DEI alarm, def not Viper, Python, Clifford, Hornet. But you can cut the wires and wire them color for color to the new alarm's harness.
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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take the short plug out of the white plug and plug your valet into it
That is your programming location. Its a mid 90's dei design. Te unit should enter programming then.
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by audioroach
take the short plug out of the white plug and plug your valet into it
That is your programming location. Its a mid 90's dei design. Te unit should enter programming then.
Ok, that seems to be getting somewhere. The alarm now responds when I try to program the remote but I'm still having some trouble. I get the confirmation "chirp" that the instructions say I'm suppose to get but I can't get the alarm to pick up the remote, it usually ends with the alarm giving a 1-2 second siren.

Any idea what the red plug is for?
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Default Re: If your good with Car Alarms, I need your help/thoughts...

Originally Posted by audioroach
take the short plug out of the white plug and plug your valet into it
That is your programming location. Its a mid 90's dei design. Te unit should enter programming then.
Ok I got it programmed. Working like it did originally.

Thanks guys!
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by iCollectStraws
Ok I got it programmed. Working like it did originally.

Thanks guys!
no problem....just remember to put the shorting plug back in...
there was an issue those series of that vintage and that was the
"solution".
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