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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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Default Does hondata allow you to see how the ECU works?

One problem with the AEM EMS or any independent ECU is that you don't have a base timing and fuel map to go by, instead you've got to kind of wing it. Well I was wondering if by installing Hondata to your ECU and not making any changes, does it give you access/let you see all of the things that the ECU does at a given time and or have a list of "If this, then this, if that, then do this"? It would seem like you could use Hondata to get an idea of how your stock ECU is setup and then port that data over to an independent EMS.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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I know what an ECU is, I know what Hondata is, I know what and engine management system is.....


....but I seriously have no f*cking idea what the hell you're asking
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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can you not get an oem map with the aem to start out with?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by imzjustplayin
One problem with the AEM EMS or any independent ECU is that you don't have a base timing and fuel map to go by, instead you've got to kind of wing it. Well I was wondering if by installing Hondata to your ECU and not making any changes, does it give you access/let you see all of the things that the ECU does at a given time and or have a list of "If this, then this, if that, then do this"? It would seem like you could use Hondata to get an idea of how your stock ECU is setup and then port that data over to an independent EMS.
Just in case
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Don't worry everyone he is justplayin.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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GET A JOB AND BUY YOUR OWN HONDATA!
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Screw that ****, Crome is practically free and a chip kit is $25 bux.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tazeat
Screw that ****, Crome is practically free and a chip kit is $25 bux.
http://hondaswap.com/ecus-electronic.../chrome-59215/

Link in last post, right?

As stated on this website:http://www.3si.org/wiki/index.php/AE...stem_(EMS)_FAQ It talks about break points where you set the timing per the RPM. So for 600Rpm it's 20, 800rpm it's 20, 1200rpm it's 10, etc.. What I wanted to know is, can you increase the number of breakpoints/the granularity of the timing map? So instead of timing being set every 400rpm or 200rpm, the timing could be set every 50rpm or even every 5rpm! Sure this would be extremely tedious but it should allow for a extremely optimized engine and would run as optimally as possible.

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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First it's Crome not "Chrome" as stated on that website and yes you can get it on http://tunewithcrome.com ...

No, I'm pretty sure it's just the intervals set within the program you can't set different values for every 5 rpm.

I'm not sure the point your trying to make or what this thread is even about lol.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 04:23 AM
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Default Re: Does hondata allow you to see how the ECU works?

Originally Posted by tazeat
First it's Crome not "Chrome" as stated on that website and yes you can get it on http://tunewithcrome.com ...

No, I'm pretty sure it's just the intervals set within the program you can't set different values for every 5 rpm.

I'm not sure the point your trying to make or what this thread is even about lol.
"Setup -> Breakpoints -> RPM Breakpoints Table -> Table
You most likely will not be spinning your motor up to 10,500 RPM - so by squashing some of the breakpoints down you will increase the resolution in your fuel and timing maps.
I recommend the following for breakpoints:" from the 3000gt website..

So it seems like you can, but it's just that the EMS is limited to a given number of ignition timing points which seems kind of dumb if you ask me. If you have an RPM range of 500-3000, you'd have more granularity over 500-10K rpm.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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Default Re: Does hondata allow you to see how the ECU works?

I think I kind of understand what you're trying to do here...


...and it sounds really dumb. Please stop.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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hondata and ectune interpolates pretty good in between cells. go with hks fconV for 32x32 tables if that's really what you want.
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