My prelude story: Tell me if I'm missing anything
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Hey guys I'm new to the forum and I recently bought a 97 prelude that I thought was a great price... $2500
Now I've been spending day and night trying to learn as much as possible.
The body was ok but it had this really ugly custom headlight conversion (98 corolla I think),custom hood scoop set up and wings west wing... I took it back to stock no wing no emblems (black sleeper).
It had a lot of mods including a built block, P&P head, Haltech E6X and a bunch of other stuff. It was smoking pretty good but it was recently taken from turbo to NA without a tune so I just thought it needed to be tuned.
I got it tuned at turbo trix racing in Edison NJ. Because of the low compression pistons (9.0:1) it was only 125whp 115wtq. So for anyone who wants to know what kind of power low compression pistons make NA there it is.
Anyway the smoking problem did not go away so they thought it was the valve guides. I took the car from Turbo trix and brought it to Straight Line in Matawan NJ. The compression and leak down tests came out fine from what the guy told me. Compression was 150 across all pistons. So the head came off. There it sits with no head right now.
The head went to the machine shop checked the head and there was nothing wrong with it. Everything was stock except for the fact the head got a stage 2 port and polish from JG Engine Dynamics. I was expecting there to be aftermarket parts inside but oh well. Now he thinks the rings are bad and the block was not properly decked so the engine is being pulled. We'll see where that leads us. But as of now it has JE Pistons 9.0:1 and Crower Rods.
The current and future mods are as follows: My goal is 500+whp
Now the head is getting:
Skunk2 Pro 1+ cams
Skunk2 Pro Cam gears
Skunk2 Titanium Retainers
Skunk2 Valves +1.0mm (what do you guys think of +1.0mm)
Skunk2 Pro spring
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
Professional Products 68mm Throttle body (recommended by Jeff Evans bc all the other throttle bodies he has used stick) Professional Products 69607 - Professional Products Power Throttle Bodies
I have a Blaast Performance sidewinder exhaust manifold with 3" downpipe (both jet hot coated). preludes (second one down)
Tial 44mm WG (Red)
I will be getting Borg Warner S362 ETT turbo = GT35R (about)
Precision 600hp Intercooler (I'm going to swap it out for the 750)
The charge piping will be 2.75"-3.00"
Tial 50mm BOV (Red)
It has a sump fuel system with Bosch 044 fuel pump and steel braided lines.
It has 1000cc injectors, fuel rail and FPR (IDK the brands)
The trans is grinding when it goes into 5th so I am replacing all the synchros with carbon coated: Synchrotech Transmissions Inc : BSK-SYN101 Type R GSR B16 Bearing Seal and Carbon Synchro KIt (the one I'm getting is for h22)
MFactory Helical LSD
B R Fittings Catch Can: NEW ANODIZED & POLISHED CATCH CAN KITS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Honda-Tech (B-SERIES CATCH CAN DRAIN BACK KIT)
AEM gauges:
Boost
A/F
Oil press
Fuel Press
What gauge pod should I get?
The Haltec is going to be removed and replaced with Hondata S300 with boost package from Evans Tuning.
Tokico HP Shocks
Ground Control Coilovers
18" rims (idk what kind)
ESP Traction control Bar w/ front torque mount kit
WOW that was long... If you got though it THANKS and let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything.
Thanks
Matt
Now I've been spending day and night trying to learn as much as possible.
The body was ok but it had this really ugly custom headlight conversion (98 corolla I think),custom hood scoop set up and wings west wing... I took it back to stock no wing no emblems (black sleeper).
It had a lot of mods including a built block, P&P head, Haltech E6X and a bunch of other stuff. It was smoking pretty good but it was recently taken from turbo to NA without a tune so I just thought it needed to be tuned.
I got it tuned at turbo trix racing in Edison NJ. Because of the low compression pistons (9.0:1) it was only 125whp 115wtq. So for anyone who wants to know what kind of power low compression pistons make NA there it is.
Anyway the smoking problem did not go away so they thought it was the valve guides. I took the car from Turbo trix and brought it to Straight Line in Matawan NJ. The compression and leak down tests came out fine from what the guy told me. Compression was 150 across all pistons. So the head came off. There it sits with no head right now.
The head went to the machine shop checked the head and there was nothing wrong with it. Everything was stock except for the fact the head got a stage 2 port and polish from JG Engine Dynamics. I was expecting there to be aftermarket parts inside but oh well. Now he thinks the rings are bad and the block was not properly decked so the engine is being pulled. We'll see where that leads us. But as of now it has JE Pistons 9.0:1 and Crower Rods.
The current and future mods are as follows: My goal is 500+whp
Now the head is getting:
Skunk2 Pro 1+ cams
Skunk2 Pro Cam gears
Skunk2 Titanium Retainers
Skunk2 Valves +1.0mm (what do you guys think of +1.0mm)
Skunk2 Pro spring
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
Professional Products 68mm Throttle body (recommended by Jeff Evans bc all the other throttle bodies he has used stick) Professional Products 69607 - Professional Products Power Throttle Bodies
I have a Blaast Performance sidewinder exhaust manifold with 3" downpipe (both jet hot coated). preludes (second one down)
Tial 44mm WG (Red)
I will be getting Borg Warner S362 ETT turbo = GT35R (about)
Precision 600hp Intercooler (I'm going to swap it out for the 750)
The charge piping will be 2.75"-3.00"
Tial 50mm BOV (Red)
It has a sump fuel system with Bosch 044 fuel pump and steel braided lines.
It has 1000cc injectors, fuel rail and FPR (IDK the brands)
The trans is grinding when it goes into 5th so I am replacing all the synchros with carbon coated: Synchrotech Transmissions Inc : BSK-SYN101 Type R GSR B16 Bearing Seal and Carbon Synchro KIt (the one I'm getting is for h22)
MFactory Helical LSD
B R Fittings Catch Can: NEW ANODIZED & POLISHED CATCH CAN KITS!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Honda-Tech (B-SERIES CATCH CAN DRAIN BACK KIT)
AEM gauges:
Boost
A/F
Oil press
Fuel Press
What gauge pod should I get?
The Haltec is going to be removed and replaced with Hondata S300 with boost package from Evans Tuning.
Tokico HP Shocks
Ground Control Coilovers
18" rims (idk what kind)
ESP Traction control Bar w/ front torque mount kit
WOW that was long... If you got though it THANKS and let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything.
Thanks
Matt
Last edited by KTULU990; Jun 9, 2009 at 03:14 PM.
I think your going to have a hard time pushing 500+ with 1000cc injectors you can do it but you would have to bump your fuel pressure and it would push thier duty cycles pretty wide open, seen it done but then again I've seen setups that couldn't do it without going bigger, and as far as valvetrain what you're aiming for the stock valvetrain is fine its the bottom end that you're going to want to spend money on. It's just me but I hate spending money on things that don't need it, especially when the sum of all the other parts are expensive as it is
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I never thought about 1000cc injectors being too small... I'll have to ask Jeff about that and see what he thinks.
The head is all apart and I may want to go higher hp later with a dedicated race car so I just want to get everything out of the way in one shot... I like to get things done right the first time and hopefully not have to do it again.
The head is all apart and I may want to go higher hp later with a dedicated race car so I just want to get everything out of the way in one shot... I like to get things done right the first time and hopefully not have to do it again.
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