basically im just asking if it's worth it to get the skunk2 mani for my ls now? I only have basic bolt on but in the next few yrs i do plan on boosting. It seems like a good price. But just not sure if i'll benefit from it.

 

you wont unless you have i/h/e, and then get it professionally tuned, and by tuned i dont mean a chip off ebay.. i just got a 65mm throttle body skunk2 im, i have the rmf style header full apexi n1 exhaust, with a test pipe, and a password jdm intake, it ran like crap for the 2 days i bolted it on until i got it tuned by j-k tuning with a p28 with neptune demon, now its like a gem... after that you need cams then you'll really feel the power of the skunk2 intake manifold... if your not going to do any of that, then dont bother

 

im a little new to this but if you get i/h/e do you have to tune it afterwards? or were you refering to if you put on a intake mani?

 

You can tune it with your current setup and your car will run a little better. Matter of fact, you can tune a completely stock car and it will run better. If you get the IM you should also get a TB and cams. The IM itself will make little difference but you will need a tune for it to make the most difference. If you're planning on boosting I suggest just saving your money for the turbo kit.
IM= 250
TB= 250
Cams=250
ECU= 200
Tune= 150
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That's 1100 if you install everything yourself. That's about half of the turbo kit.

 

aiite good lookin on the info thanks

 

I am looking at this Skunk2 Intake Manifold as well. I have already installed I/H/E, cams and a Vtec controller. Will get it tuned soon. Right now everything set at stock on cams and controller.

I am still running the D16z6 engine though. Is it worth going to aftermarket intake manifold with this engine? Or should I wait until I swap it for B series?

If so, is there a huge difference between the BLOX vs. Skunk2 manifolds?

Looking to boost later along with adding Hondata.

 

I heard blox was a little better than skunk2 but that could have just been word of mouth

 

well to answer your question with just i/h/e no you dont, infact most people dont, although you should, because every bit helps.. but since you want to put that manifold on a ls its really not going to make any difference unless you get a set of cams and get a tune, because of the fact that they are both single runner manifolds.. but like a guy said earlier on save your money for boosting it down the road, because you'll need every penny trust me..

simple as this, save your money an get a b/k series, i've seen plenty fast people dump money into single cams and yea they were fast, but dohc is they way to go, dont waste your money

word of mouth, the skunk2 manifold has way better quality hands down, which they have a comparison on their site, but as far as performance im sure they are around the same, but blox def isnt just a better manifold

 

CIVICADDICT, if you have the cams already installed and wanna get the IM go for it. It should help out more then other since you already have the cams installed you should see a decent difference

 

i wouldn't bother getting it tuned untill you are ready to be done upgrading the car, i mean, as far as engine work goes anyway. i mean, why spend 400 for a tune now, the 400 for a tune when you get something else done. that would be a huge waste of money. i do agree, however, that every little bit helps....to a point. but, honestly, to be more cost efficient, i'd consider waiting till its finished.

 

Because if you are working hard on your car, you should tune it right away so its always in perfect condition.. 400 now 400 later.. 800..


you have to pay 2 play

 

its not 400 now 400 later, maybe in some shops, but when i get a tune done then go back to get another tune done its only half the price... if you dont see the point im trying to get at, why dump all this money into the car if your not getting the most out of it, or even better yet risk messing it up from not having the proper tune.. seems pointless to not have it tuned for the parts you have

 

i understand what you guys are saying. yes, definately get a tune. but, tuning for an intake manifold now for 400 bucks. then 6 months down the road tuning with cams for 200 bucks ect....just doesn't seem plausible. why not spend 50 bucks, get a basemap for the modifications you currently have, then just get that changed with the cams, then when you are ready to be complete, THEN get it tuned. i just can't see spending 250 on an intake manifold, then 400 for tuning, then 500 for cams, then 200 for tuning. its foolish. and further more, what damage can be done with not tuning an intake manifold addition? the basemap is 50 bucks, and can be changed again for 50 bucks. better than 400, then 200 ect......

 

Oh my!
Good to know..

So Honda spent millions in R+D making that engine run perfect from the factory only for me to hit up Joe the Tuner for $150/hr and he'll make the car RUN better?!

Laughing Out Loud.

 

Here is also some feedback I got from a close friend who has been tuning his whole life (literally). For D series motors, boring out the engine would be better than adding a bigger IM and TB. Anyone else had this same experience?

 

Guess you never seen the reflashes from hondata?

 

Honda tuned the engine for emissions and reliability (chassis as well as engine). There is a little more available.

The largest difference that I noticed with a Spoon chipped OBDII computer is the increase in low end torque on my '97 GSR.

 

I'd just get the eddelbrock im they're bigger and better for boost. Or you can just get the S2 im it works great as well and like its been said an im works best when you have other mods and with a good tune. You really DONT have to get it tuned right after you install the im. If you were go to someone who chips ecu and tunes cars im pretty sure you'd be able to find a map already tuned with a very similar set up, with what you have now, so you dont have to pay every time you tune. Then later actually get the tune when you add boost.

 

There's a difference between making more power and running better.

A performance gain does not mean an engine runs better. Honda makes that engine RUN perfect from the factory. A performance gain no matter what it is will always sacrifice something. So how does that engine now RUN better?

 

To just about everyone on the forums running better means the car runs faster and is smoother. With tuning you can tune out vtec dip and keep torque delivery flat. I guess it just depends on your definition of "better". Best gas mileage? Best performance? Easy to drive?

 

As stated by previous posts, it all depends on current and future mods. If you have all the correct supporting mods and plan on keeping them for a while then yes, if you plan on going boost then no lol

 

i have a skunk2 IM, and love it.

 

My B18C1 with the Spoon program has a smooth torque curve and VTEC transition. It passes emmissions. It also produces more power and gets better fuel economy than from the factory. It does indeed run better by all metrics.